pboro shot Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 just out of interest wot sort of rough cost would be involved in reloading .243 rounds from scratch including buying presses etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think I worked out as about 50p a bullet powder,primmer,head useing my own brass on top you have the cost of the press etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Too many variables to be sure. Will you be using Lee gear, or higher end stuff from the likes of Redding, Forster etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Its a very open question. at one end you don't even need a press at the other thousands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 just out of interest wot sort of rough cost would be involved in reloading .243 rounds from scratch including buying presses etc a hard question to answer due to the costs of reloading equipment brass,theres cheap and theres expensive,the cheap stuff if you want to get the best out of them you will have to work on them. bullets again,there cheap and there expensive the difference is the quailty,persoanly I would go for quality every time as this means a more consistant group powder.theres loads all around the same price,on a personal note i like Vit powders also they wotk out better value as they do in a 1k tub primers theres about £4 per 100 again buy in bulk they ens up a little cheaper now down to loading kit,theres a subject that always gets people going,theres a £80 LEE kit that will produce bullets,these may not be very good consistant rounds but they will go bang its all down to what you want to spend,its not just the reloading gear you need there case prep tools,hand priming tool,and measuruing tools and gauges I would suggest asking if theres anyone local who wouldnt mind showing you the ropes,someone who know whats there doing would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 a hard question to answer due to the costs of reloading equipment brass,theres cheap and theres expensive,the cheap stuff if you want to get the best out of them you will have to work on them. bullets again,there cheap and there expensive the difference is the quailty,persoanly I would go for quality every time as this means a more consistant group powder.theres loads all around the same price,on a personal note i like Vit powders also they wotk out better value as they do in a 1k tub primers theres about £4 per 100 again buy in bulk they ens up a little cheaper now down to loading kit,theres a subject that always gets people going,theres a £80 LEE kit that will produce bullets,these may not be very good consistant rounds but they will go bang its all down to what you want to spend,its not just the reloading gear you need there case prep tools,hand priming tool,and measuruing tools and gauges I would suggest asking if theres anyone local who wouldnt mind showing you the ropes,someone who know whats there doing would help I use the lee deluxe 4 turret press, with dies and all the little bits n pieces it was around £160ish in the end. Then brass, I had my own, primers between £3-£4 per 100,tub of viht 160(1kg)£68ish,bullets about £25per 100.A kilo of powder should do around 350 rnds. Mine has well paid for itselt, and now load 308 as well through same press so don't have that cost again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I recon you could get started with basic kit for about £100. That would be a basic set up though - hand loader, cheap scales and trickler, verniers and a case trimmer. But if you're only loading for field use that's fine. A press makes life easier but will add £50 to the start price for a cheap one. You can load with nothing more than a Lee loader but after a couple of firings the cases will need trimming. A vernier is good to get the length of the rounds right although there are ways of getting around it if you only want to match the accuracy of factory ammo rather than make it custom to your rifle. I guess like the others have said, we need to know a bit more about what you're hoping to achieve? Great accuracy? Cost? To be honest you'll be doing well to load for less than you can buy Prvi factory ammo, but then you can make pretty good rounds using premium bullets for about the price you would pay for that Prvi stuff. You'll only need to fire about 100 rounds of premium factory ammo to cover the cost of a basic loading kit, but then how long will it take you to fire 100 rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) hi all thanks for all the replys ,i know it was a little vague question but there is loads about reloading but no real answer to start up costs wot would it cost to get started with all the "budget ish" equipment including brass bullets etc and also at a later date could i use the equipment for other calibres im sure ill have all the measuring eqp as im a engineer Edited October 11, 2011 by pboro shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 hi all thanks for all the replys ,i know it was a little vague question but there is loads about reloading but no real answer to start up costs wot would it cost to get started with all the "budget ish" equipment including brass bullets etc and also at a later date could i use the equipment for other calibres i will be using them at the range most sundays deer/fox say once a month doesnt take long to get rid of a box at a range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 i will be using them at the range most sundays deer/fox say once a month doesnt take long to get rid of a box at a range if thats the case seems relaoding is the thing to do,take a look around the forums sales section there is often bargain of quality relaoding items to buy,if your an engineer you will understand quaility so keep away for anything LEE,look towards RCBS and Redding used dies often come up for sale with people changing calibers,keep your eyes open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark g Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 if thats the case seems relaoding is the thing to do,take a look around the forums sales section there is often bargain of quality relaoding items to buy,if your an engineer you will understand quaility so keep away for anything LEE,look towards RCBS and Redding used dies often come up for sale with people changing calibers,keep your eyes open whats the problems with lee stuff? i have been shooting .222 for 20 years off a lee press and dies, never had any accuracy problems so far, got some rcbs dies in .222 and the extra cost does ****** all for group size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I agree, I've used LEE since starting shooting in 1980, yes it's sometimes not finished to the same standard as say RCBS as I found when I used the new Lee Autoprime XR (sold it and bought the RCBS Universal Hand Primer) but the presses and dies work and work well. My reloaded ammunition is consistent and shoots better than I can at a fraction of the cost of factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 if thats the case seems relaoding is the thing to do,take a look around the forums sales section there is often bargain of quality relaoding items to buy,if your an engineer you will understand quaility so keep away for anything LEE,look towards RCBS and Redding used dies often come up for sale with people changing calibers,keep your eyes open Ackley you are really anti lee, is this based on personal experience or what a mates told ya in the pub. Lee isnt probably the best for high end comp stuff,though its been used to break a few records and win a few comps, but then bottom end redding and rcbs isnt either. Agreed it isnt made to the same standard as redding but then it costs a whole lot less. Hearing all the hype on more expensive dies I bought a set of redding dies, did it make more accurate ammo,no, not at all,in matter of fact I still tend to use my original lee dies in preferance. There is little point investing in very expensive reloading kit unless you are very experienced and reloading for a specialist rifle. Lee reloading kit will load more accurate ammo than the average shot with an off the peg hunting rifle can shoot.Lee will refund you if it doesnt perform as it says on the packet and if you cant make accurate ammo with lee stuff then the fault will usually be with the reloader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark g Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ackley you are really anti lee, is this based on personal experience or what a mates told ya in the pub. Lee isnt probably the best for high end comp stuff,though its been used to break a few records and win a few comps, but then bottom end redding and rcbs isnt either. Agreed it isnt made to the same standard as redding but then it costs a whole lot less. Hearing all the hype on more expensive dies I bought a set of redding dies, did it make more accurate ammo,no, not at all,in matter of fact I still tend to use my original lee dies in preferance. There is little point investing in very expensive reloading kit unless you are very experienced and reloading for a specialist rifle. Lee reloading kit will load more accurate ammo than the average shot with an off the peg hunting rifle can shoot.Lee will refund you if it doesnt perform as it says on the packet and if you cant make accurate ammo with lee stuff then the fault will usually be with the reloader. i always find that the trigger is the weak link in accurate shooting with factory made rifles, i have just been shopping around for a 204 as replacement for my old cz 527 in .222 i bought a savage 12fv with the accu trigger heavy barrel and synthetic stock, but to be honest i should have had the cz rebarreled in 204, the savage is a nice rifle but the trigger is **** compared to the cz trigger, the american drop test legislation precludes any american rifle manufacturer from fitting a good trigger for fear of being sued, big hint if i was looking for a 204 now i would look for a cz 527 or a brno fox with the set trigger and get it rebarreled with a heavy barrel in a calibre of my choice and find a stock for it to go in, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 i always find that the trigger is the weak link in accurate shooting with factory made rifles, i have just been shopping around for a 204 as replacement for my old cz 527 in .222 i bought a savage 12fv with the accu trigger heavy barrel and synthetic stock, but to be honest i should have had the cz rebarreled in 204, the savage is a nice rifle but the trigger is **** compared to the cz trigger, the american drop test legislation precludes any american rifle manufacturer from fitting a good trigger for fear of being sued, big hint if i was looking for a 204 now i would look for a cz 527 or a brno fox with the set trigger and get it rebarreled with a heavy barrel in a calibre of my choice and find a stock for it to go in, This is a strange one did it end up in the wrong thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark g Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 This is a strange one did it end up in the wrong thread ah yes sorry, i cant get to grips with the reply and multiquote buttons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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