Whitebridges Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 You are a laughing boy. Your second paragraph sums it up perfectly thanks. It's not YOU wounding birds is it!! Idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 God it's like a mothers meeting at the wrong time of the month in here !!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 You are a laughing boy. Your second paragraph sums it up perfectly thanks. It's not YOU wounding birds is it!! Idiot. For ***** sake! Me, one bird, ever. Someone else apparently more. Which part of that concept are you struggling with brainiac? I would continue this battle of wits, but it's bad form to take advantage of an unarmed opponent. Continue if you wish but I am not getting into a bitch fight with someone who can't read and comprehend one paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Bloody walls. Send me PM. You are messing up a public board which is a shame, so stop it. If you want a spat with me I will grind your *** in to the ground. Edited October 21, 2011 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Bloody walls. Send me PM. You are messing up a public board which is a shame, so stop it. If you want a spat with me I will grind your *** in to the ground. BTW you ought to consider what you post on on here.Do you really think your post about wounded birds is good print? Forget about who did what. Wildfowlers leaving wounded birds at the ratio's you were talking about just fuels the anti's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) ...and there was me thinking it's a shooting forum. I'm sure the pics of shot game do a power of good too. If you don't like someone responding to your arrogant posting, don't bother answering. No PM's, no further response. Edited October 21, 2011 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Perfect me old son. You get on with it and I wish you well in your probationary period. Edited October 21, 2011 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) I too think its a high percentage that suggests a problem with the shooter. Steel can be quite effective and effective range is only reduced by a bit. Hitting the target is just not happening if 70 % are wounded. Hevishot or tungsten matrix will give more killing power at reasonable ranges. I'm not claiming to be a great shot or willy waving but you should be able to kill 70% at 40 yds and longer with tungsten. I have seen shooting chums frequently kill birds at 50-60 yds with lead and 40-50 with tungsten. You are right though - listen and learn. When you have passed the probationary period you can do as you choose and as experience advises. Being a good shot is way more important than what shot you use. Edited October 21, 2011 by Kes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Each to his own in terms of ntx shot material but before you are put off steel and start experimenting with some of the extremely expensive and exotic alternatives it`s worth checking to see if you know the history of the cartridges you`re using. They are part of a load brought into the UK a few years ago. I`ve used them myself and they are very effective. As you can see Gytorp are a Swedish company. Sweden is not a signatory to the European CIP regulations and as such, these cartridges are loaded outside the CIP regs.and are faster and therefore more effective,than those one can normally buy over the U.K. gunshop counter. They operate at pressures which are safe for your gun and in crude ballistic terms are the rough equivalent of a crisp, effective steel homeload. I mention this simply because psychology and confidence plays a significant part in successful shooting. It would do no harm to use a cartridge with a bit more "knock down power" but the ones you have are not the cause of the problem, just in case you ever thought they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 70% is rubbish. FYI, 9 out of 10 statistics are made up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tis1979 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 70% is rubbish. FYI, 9 out of 10 statistics are made up Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) 70% is rubbish. FYI, 9 out of 10 statistics are made up I agree, that's why I asked the question. Seems that the figures may be well off, we shall see, we are however now going to keep a tally and find out exactly what the figures are rather than a guesstimate. I managed my second duck last night which was cleanly killed, so I'm down to 50% on the wounding stakes now and looking forward to lowering it further. Edited October 23, 2011 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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