Alpha Mule Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I've just been zeroing and had a substantial flier and upon looking at the spent case, I found a big crack in it. I checked what I had left of the box and found 2 of 20 something unused ones also with cracks. I have another box in the safe, same batch. Should I return the whole lot (1 box unopened)? Is it worth having a pinned thread of the batch numbers found to be bad? Batch number: M18M05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Take them back for exchange. They sometimes crack after use but before even fired I would return them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I seem to get a few that split, but only after being fired. Although saying that, i've never really checked before loading. Hmmm, just bought 6 bricks so will check them when I get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Also, I noted the tips are no longer blue. The ones I just bought are orangey/golden. What's that all about?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted October 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 The cracks are more visible to the eye and can definately be felt by a finger nail. The tips are a silver/grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) I posted the same about this quiet some time back after noticing the odd strange discharge when firing. I noticed that there was large cracks in the neck or shoulder of the spent case. And after checking the cartridges (pre firing of course). I noticed airline fractures like the bullet in the middle diagram shows. But out of about 200 checked i only found about 5 and took them out. Though i still get the odd cracked case after firing. But it has never bothered me health an saftey wise when shooting, so hardly take any notice now. I just check for cracked one before i shoot them and take them out to be dispenced with. As for the tips, some say blue, red or what ever colour has a different baring on the ammo's accuracy. IMHO opinion all the differnce is between them all is just the colour an nothing else. Never noticed any difference in accuracy. DD Edited October 26, 2011 by deputy dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I posted the same about this quiet some time back after noticing the odd strange discharge when firing. I noticed that there was large cracks in the neck or shoulder of the spent case. And after checking the cartridges (pre firing of course). I noticed airline fractures like the bullet in the middle diagram shows. But out of about 200 checked i only found about 5 and took them out. Though i still get the odd cracked case after firing. But it has never bothered me health an saftey wise when shooting, so hardly take any notice now. I just check for cracked one before i shoot them and take them out to be dispenced with. As for the tips, some say blue, red or what ever colour has a different baring on the ammo's accuracy. IMHO opinion all the differnce is between them all, just is the colour an thats it. Never noticed any difference in accuracy. Unless your using 20grain or 25grain heads. Iv only ever used 17grain as i'v never been able to get the 20 or 25 grain to shoot. DD yep same here DD I guess the tip colour is more to do with a quick way to tell a date made to/from it would be a guess but i can see the shop saying oh yea red ones there from jan 09 to jan 10 if you catch my drift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 The Blue tips were made for the 17HMR Mach2, which was/is not as popular as the standard 17HMR. As there was so much surplus of blue tips, they were used instead of Red. But there is no difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted October 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 To be honest: I'm not colour predudiced - as long as they blow holes in the quary. However: I'm not to keen on 'shelling' out 22p a round if they are obviously faulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Just been out zeroing a new scope and trying out some Federal V Shoks. Very happy with the new scope, not so chuffed with the consistancy of the Fed's I actually though that I wouldn't need to check every round. As I was in the process of zeroing the scope I expected some to be a bit off as I made adjustments, but some seemed to be further off than I would have expected. I checked the spent cases and guess what I found? 3 properly split necks. I checked the remaining un-fired rounds in the box and found another 2 with cracks. That's 10%. I understand that the makers can't check every round, but 10% is a bit high in my opinion. Batch number: 19M16 I'll have a word with the RFD to see if they had had any other complaints. The attached picture was my attempts to zero at 105m, so I'm not too miserable. Edited November 19, 2011 by Alpha Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I wouldn't worry about split necks after firing it's common on the hmr, but there have been some around split before firing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 OK about the post fired ones, but this box has two un-fired, but cracked ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Take em back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Still waiting to hear from my RFD (will nudge him again later) about some sort of refund. Just cracked (pun intended) a new box of Winnies (Batch # M18M06). Can you guess what I found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 That's not good.... I've only ever used Hornady in my HMR, and can't say I've ever notice that before firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 That's not good.... I've only ever used Hornady in my HMR, and can't say I've ever notice that before firing. BUT would you, how many of us inspect all our HMR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) I have to say I very rarely inspect new carts, but plenty of split ones afterwards! And whilst there may well be odd batch issues regardless, I believe the problem is to be found with all HMR! Edited January 11, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 ill have a closer look thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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