rubythedog Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 were did all this uv vission stuff come from? is it a fact? reading up about wood pigeon on dedicated bird sites etc dont seem to mention a lot about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 were did all this uv vission stuff come from? is it a fact? reading up about wood pigeon on dedicated bird sites etc dont seem to mention a lot about it Even if it is true i don't see how it matters to us pigeon shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 This is supposedly a fact and birds, not just pigeon, can see Ultra Violet. I thought that sillosocks used UV-impregnated colours and that is why they look a bit odd.These were thought to be THE decoy at one time and I'm not sure but don't FUDs use it as well? I apply UV paint to my floaters,. Does it help?....can't do any harm can it!! Might just improve the odds a little more in our favour GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axor Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 This has been mentioned on here and I do recall a study being posted about the fact they do see in UV, Silsox do use UV on there decoys and I must admit I paint mine with UV paint, again does it work? It cant hurt using the paint and it brightens them up once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I was shooting 150+ a time not so long ago with flock coating shells. i thought it would be a good idea to paint the wing bars and necks with white UV. all i got was jinxing birds that would not try to land with in the pattern. all i pulled was squabs, ferals and seagulls. i have repainted and flocked and the birds are coming in again. one of my stupid moments and very quickly learnt lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I use Sillos slip over jackets (with UV paint) on my shell decoys and I touch up the neck ring with UV paint. That really makes the decoys stand out to me and the pigeons certainly don't spook on them. If you see birds in the field, often the first thing you notice is their white neck band and if you view my decoys from a distance, they look just as good. "Scientifically" it is supposed to make them more visible to birds from a distance, I have no way of knowing if thats true, but I believe and thats all that really matters (to me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubythedog Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 i like the way you have put that cranfeild! you have really no idea if it works or not but it makes you feel better about your decoys, theres something to be said about that pal! if it makes you feel better than i guess theres no harm at all. fact still remains no one nos if its true and if it helps! that i think is coz its trollop, after listening to you lads i think its just a product for the hunter and not the bird! no hard facts with it at all. thanks lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 i like the way you have put that cranfeild! you have really no idea if it works or not but it makes you feel better about your decoys, theres something to be said about that pal! if it makes you feel better than i guess theres no harm at all. fact still remains no one nos if its true and if it helps! that i think is coz its trollop, after listening to you lads i think its just a product for the hunter and not the bird! no hard facts with it at all. thanks lads. This is like saying germs don't exist because you can't see them! A little shortsighted I think! Decoying pigeons is not an exact science, or art for that matter, as most pigeon shooters will agree. A lot the new products we try are based on reproducing or mimicking the birds looks and behaviour that we see with our eyes not theirs. Why call it "Trollope" when you can't prove that statement when research has shown that birds do see ultra violet. People who use it are trying yet another way to copy what we see in nature. I agree with Cranfield, I believe that having confidence in what you are doing is everything. If using UV paint ruins it for you then don't use it. I don't use flocked decoys because I think they dont look the right colours. Others swear by them. Each to their own! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubythedog Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 This is like saying germs don't exist because you can't see them! A little shortsighted I think! Decoying pigeons is not an exact science, or art for that matter, as most pigeon shooters will agree. A lot the new products we try are based on reproducing or mimicking the birds looks and behaviour that we see with our eyes not theirs. Why call it "Trollope" when you can't prove that statement when research has shown that birds do see ultra violet. People who use it are trying yet another way to copy what we see in nature. I agree with Cranfield, I believe that having confidence in what you are doing is everything. If using UV paint ruins it for you then don't use it. I don't use flocked decoys because I think they dont look the right colours. Others swear by them. Each to their own! GH dont get upset gh, its just my opinion, i dont mind one bit if you whant to buy this stuff! i call it trollop coz its near factless! i think its a fair statment, you say in your first post your cluless if it works or not but feel the need to defend it (why) and to say im short sighted becouse im not keen on a product that quite clearly you have no idea about puzzels me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) I bought some FUD's and with it came a picture of a real Goose head, a decoy Goose head and a FUD goose head with uv like all FUD's. In the normal picture all look alike in the picture under a uv light only 2 light up. Does it work!!!I bought some :lol: Edited October 31, 2011 by yankeedoodlepigeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 dont get upset gh, its just my opinion, i dont mind one bit if you whant to buy this stuff! i call it trollop coz its near factless! i think its a fair statment, you say in your first post your cluless if it works or not but feel the need to defend it (why) and to say im short sighted becouse im not keen on a product that quite clearly you have no idea about puzzels me! Not getting upset at all and I'm not really defending it but I do think you missed my point. Science says they see UV, fact. What I don't know for sure, because I can't prove it, is, does it actually make the decoys more effective? OK, some will say yes and others no because the fact remains that there are too many other variables involved to come to a positive conclusion. We all know what worked yesterday may not work today. The shortsighted bit comes from dismissing something with no more proof than anyone else whether it works or not. I'm not trying to 'convert' you but perhaps an have open mind on the subject. Like I said, if you don't believe it works then you won't be using it will you? Thanks for reading this. GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubythedog Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Not getting upset at all and I'm not really defending it but I do think you missed my point. Science says they see UV, fact. What I don't know for sure, because I can't prove it, is, does it actually make the decoys more effective? OK, some will say yes and others no because the fact remains that there are too many other variables involved to come to a positive conclusion. We all know what worked yesterday may not work today. The shortsighted bit comes from dismissing something with no more proof than anyone else whether it works or not. I'm not trying to 'convert' you but perhaps an have open mind on the subject. Like I said, if you don't believe it works then you won't be using it will you? Thanks for reading this. GH gh i do take your point on board buddy and in no way am i trying to disrespect you but your last post is my whole point, no one has any clue at all if uv paint dos anything what so ever but are still spending there hard earn money on it! all these companys out there are selling over inflated priced products on the basis they have great selling points like (uv) wich is guess work! i think this is some what missleading and is just another money spinner to fool us fellow pigeon shooters in to spending our money, i for one like to no when i spend money on a product that it holds a definate benifit to me, with uv i or no one else is getting that! and yes it may just do something! but i wouldnt hold ya breath, to me its like buting heather of a gypsy! will you get good luck? doubt it anway m8, i guess you no by now i wont be dashing out to buy some so rant over ps, i did here though from a good source that if you eat lots of carrots you dont need to buy night vision!!!! may be worth a try take care a good shooting pal RTD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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