cockercas Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yer but on 5 boxes I save £35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Would you like to buy a gun for £ 900 or one for £ 1000 and get £ 50 off. Don`t buy discount buy at a sensible price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 But with the power of 'internet people can view prices online, Guntrader has increased competition. Take the Silver Pigeon 1. Cheapest is £1225 new and the most expensive is £1395. You'd be a tad annoyed having seen that if your local RFD is charging £1395. If they couldn't get close I'd be going elsewhere.... Same as cars. Brokers offer some fantastic cars and I ended buying in Manchester at franchised dealer £300 cheaper than my local dealer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunders.shoots Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 My local gun shop gives me at least 10% of everything i buy even little things like 25 carts! got a block of 250 eley carts meant to be 67 for 50, another example bought a new jacket and boots they gave me £60 off.... bought a second hand gun listed at 1600 for 1500 including slip, cleaning kit and few cartridges. they do not seem to mind giving a discount as i go in regularly. And the gun shop is doing very well for them selves so discounts can be done with out them going bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Haggling is not a very British thing..the best and usual outcome of a good negotiation is both sides are slightly unhappy!There is also a nice way to do it and an unpleasant way,it is 2 humans afterall,don't make the otherside feel uncomfortable.I have never paid the asking price for big purcahses,cars/guns/jewels/watches/houses.....in a gunshop,deal with the owner/manager and simply state ''I have been looking for one of these for some time and have decided that I am going to buy one this weekend,could you please tell me your best cash price for doing the deal now?''.The owner then knows he has a serious customer stood in front of him that will buy what he is trying to sell NOW and that all he needs is to do something with the price.Any retailer will know how much 'fat' he has in the product and will make a gesture..if you are liked/a regular customer etc you will be surprised how effective this will be.It is just important that the shop keeper knows you are a very serious buyer and not just a window shopper,and in a gunshop they get alot of 'window shoppers' and I for one would not offer discounts to every 'cold-caller',but give me a serious client and I'll give him a serious price! This is not intended to be a dig,as I have no idea how you broached the subject,this is simply what I've always done and it works for me. ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Margin is not the same on all products, there is a huge margin on clothes, furniture and some foods Electricals is quite small 35% or so. Beware the web, you cannot run a retail business on web based margins. Web margins can be as low as 10% but the overheads are minute. Supermarkets "margin mix" so they may discount fuel, but increase milk, drop biscuits but increase soap powder. What we all forget about supermarkets is that we pay upfront ( mostly) for our purchases, the grocers are on anything from 30-120 days credit terms with most big suppliers so will be sat on a lot of cash for a fair while- they can then play the money markets with this short term, adding even more profit. What is wrong with making a profit?. Do you want longevity out of your retailers or a here today gone tommorrow mentality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam f Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 All good input and lots of varied opinions on this. I'm never rude when I ask, and if you dont ask you dont get! I understand the need to make a profit and that small businesses are up against the internet etc - which is why I try and support them. Anyway - hats off to Ian Coley Sporting. Travelled up there today to look at a gun, a great shop, great service and very friendly. I liked the gun - we had a chat about price, after a small bit of haggling we met half way and he chucked in a few boxes of carts - all in all I saved about £100 on a £1200 gun - I left with a gun I love, pleased that Ive got a bit of a deal and they have a sale and a happy customer who will defently use them again! Win - win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Ive had mixed experiences really. One place ive bought 2 guns from heavily marked them up, in fact I could have bought a new one for the price he was trying to sell me one of them 2nd hand one for. But, because he marked them up he happily knocked a little bit of the "ticket" price to make me feel i was getting a bargain. He also said he`d throw in a slip and rather than give me a new one off the shelf as i expected he gave me a manky old 2nd hand one. After that experience I switched to another local shop which is a *lot* cheaper than the other shop. On top of that they offer me 10% off for being a BASC member. The last gun I bought from them I got for about 200quid less than anywhere else was selling it. Granted, they have a *much* bigger stock and so I guess they probably have a bigger turnover. I even remember when I bought my air rifle from a shop out near Birmingham. They had had it sitting on the shelf for so long it was covered in dust, it was 2nd hand and they wanted the very top money for it. They refused to knock anything off the price of it, but in the end I managed to get a £10 tin of pellets thrown in. But, its not just gunshops, I find the same with car dealers. I was looking for a nearly new car back in March and saw 2 I really liked the look off. I offered 10% under asking price for the first one and the dealer said he`d only knock 1% of and that was it. I walked. 4 weeks later he still hadnt sold the car and had reduced the price by about 15%! So, really he should have taken my offer. The car I ended up buying from from a difference main dealer and they point blank refused to knock a single penny off the price - even for a cash buy. I managed to get 6 months tax thrown in (260quid or something) and that was it. Edited November 8, 2011 by jackinbox99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 But, its not just gunshops, I find the same with car dealers. I was looking for a nearly new car back in March and saw 2 I really liked the look off. I offered 10% under asking price for the first one and the dealer said he`d only knock 1% of and that was it. I walked. 4 weeks later he still hadnt sold the car and had reduced the price by about 15%! So, really he should have taken my offer. The car I ended up buying from from a difference main dealer and they point blank refused to knock a single penny off the price - even for a cash buy. I managed to get 6 months tax thrown in (260quid or something) and that was it. Just supposing the nearly new car you were looking at was £10000, you are saying that you offered £9000 (i.e, wanted a grand off) but are surprised he didn't take it. Can I ask respectfully what kind of margin you think was in that car to begin with? If car dealers accepted the kind of offers made everyday, they'd lose money at the end of every month. You might find he'd sold half a dozen similar cars during that month and eventually had to reduce the unsold one. It doesn't follow he should have taken your original deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feaks Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Bought a Browning 425 at the CLA a few years back and haggled so hard the bloke said i must have been a farmer .Dont ask dont get but added extras are often easier to get deal clinchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I recently bought my first shotgun a browning 425 s/h. It was up at 800 got it for 760 but was promised he would buy it back for the same price as long as the condition was ok. It's 40 minute drive from home but as there friendly and sell u what u need not what they need to get rid of it's well worth the trip. I bought a slip and ear defenders yesterday and got a nice discount to say i didn't spend a fortune but they know that a few quid off and top service will mean over the years they will make a decent profit off me and I always feel good even if it's a few quid I save each time. Bamfords nr chorley offers good advice and no pressure sales. My kinda shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) The prices differ so much When I bought my 525 I phoned round and got prices from 13250. To 15750. My local gun shop being the higher end of the prices and wouldn't budge a bit Needless to say I went elsewhere. I had to barter a bit for the 13250 and got the but plate fitting thrown in but I would definitely always ask for a discount and get quotes It takes half an hour to call round and check 4 or 5 places for the best rates and well worth it And you can get totally ripped of if you walk into the local gunsmiths that seek 2 guns a week with your wallet and tounge hanging out..... As a mr Guinness once said. Good things come to those who wait.. Also don't take ludicrous offers for your trade in I've go a couple of mates that have let god guns go for 150 quid when they are worth 300 at least. Edited November 8, 2011 by Mike525steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 mike, er...thik your figures are wrong...if you paid £13k for a 525 your gunshop owner has just booked Barbados for Xmas..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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