highseas Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 ive posted this befor on this kinda thread but me and 5 other keepers on a very big grouse moor last year in the snow 4 shooting 2 driveing pickups and lamping we got over 600 in two nights useing shotguns, still think their useless? on hear i can shoot more with a shotgun than i can with a rifle at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 i got a 20g semi with a torch fitted to barrel with bracket it has very tight beam and it hits were the beam points just put the bunnie in the middle of the beam and squeeze dead bunnie colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 i had no joy, could not get close enuff il try again in a few days time, the lamp worked well under my barrels tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) As has already been said a shotgun is not really the ideal tool for lamping rabbits with unless it is a "Hushpower" as one shot is likely to send every rabbit withing 200 yards running for cover. My prefered tool would be an air rifle or a rimfire with a moderator fitted! Having said that if you want to use a shotgun for lamping rabbits then that isn't a problem as long as you aren't expection huge bags! However a shotgun and lamp/torch for foxes can be quite efficient. I occasionally use a shotgun for foxing with in areas where I might not think of a CF rifle as offering a safe shot etc. My "Foxing Shotgun Set Up" (Pictured below) consists of a Mossberg 9200 with a half choke and loaded with 3 inch cartridges carrying AA shot! The "Cree" torch is from either ALDI or LIDL (I can't remember which) and cost £14.99 and is advertised as having a beam reaching out to 229 yards. It has an adjustable beam and on it's tightest zoom it will happily pick up a fox at 150 yards (Unfiltered - I am trying to find some sort of a red filter that I can use which will take the effective range of the torch down to about 50 yards - More than enough range for a fox with a shotgun) Mounting it was quite simple and it is quite easy for me to operate and hold the torch for lamping and shooting just the same as I would hold the forend in normal circumstances. I hope this helps. Let us know how you get on. Edit: I have now worked out a way of mounting my camcorder on to the shotgun so I will hopefully be doing a video of "Lamping Foxes With A Shotgun" in the quite near future! (As long as Charlie doesn't decide he is "camera shy"!) Edited November 19, 2011 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 that looks like a good set up im using my berreta o/u, with a lamp attached under the barrel, may invest in a semi auto tho. looking forward to the video, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Enjoyed your other videos Frenchie , this sounds it could be a corker . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric_H Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Get a Quad bike and a semi auto! You get up on them fast, especially if they are a bit lamp shy. No problems with them all legging it if you are up on them qickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 lamping with shotguns WILL NOT clear the fields with one shot at all! ive done it for years with good results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 lamping with shotguns WILL NOT clear the fields with one shot at all! ive done it for years with good results I'm sure that you are right Highseas but just out of interest can I ask what size of shotgun you are using (12 bore or otherwise) and how much time elapses between shots (Do the rabbits scatter after each shot and if so for how long) please as I am interested in trying a bit of "shotgun lamping". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 a friend of mine lamps with shot guns all the time, he does very well, but i was a bit unsure with the distances of rabbits so tryed to get closer didnt. i want to go after the foxes more with the shot gun than rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 the mossberg looks good frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Whilst I was waiting for my FAC to come through I got my first good rabbit permission at a golf course. The green keeper was initially hard work to get permission from as he'd had dozens of lads in the past get permission and not put the work in so I really needed to make a good impression by getting stuck in straight away. I used a Baikal 410 moderated with 3" carts and a deben tracer clamped to the top of the barrel and it worked a treat as long as you got within sensible range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Whilst I was waiting for my FAC to come through I got my first good rabbit permission at a golf course. The green keeper was initially hard work to get permission from as he'd had dozens of lads in the past get permission and not put the work in so I really needed to make a good impression by getting stuck in straight away. I used a Baikal 410 moderated with 3" carts and a deben tracer clamped to the top of the barrel and it worked a treat as long as you got within sensible range. could you post a picture of your set up please, i also had a baikal stealth hushpoer for lamping but only managed to set it up with a small cree torch with a pressure pad, i couldn't figure out how to mount my deben tracer. i sold the gun about a year ago but still intrested. gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 The scope mount that comes with the tracer just pushes onto the barrell behind the moderator and a cable tie secures it if needed, will have a look for any pics for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm sure that you are right Highseas but just out of interest can I ask what size of shotgun you are using (12 bore or otherwise) and how much time elapses between shots (Do the rabbits scatter after each shot and if so for how long) please as I am interested in trying a bit of "shotgun lamping". i lamp with a 3 shot semi and 8 shot semi 12 ga most the estate is long thin strips of grass so we can see rabbits and gares 2-300 yards away and shoot going towards them, you can get maybe 6-8 rabbits in a group op 3 off then re-load and get anuther one of two, we lamp from quads/pickups most the time. like my earlyer post said,weve shot hundrets in a night with shotguns with tens in one field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake444 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is a very good barrel clamp, very tough - Nordic Components 12g Barrel Clamp You will find with the cheaper barrel clamps, that they will slip up the barrel gradually with recoil, this can cause scratching. You can get quite a nice setup together if you’re going out alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 i used to have a mossberg .410 hushpower to which i had attached my old deben mini pro lamp under the barrel by taking off the scope adaptor and drilling a hole through the adaptor mount and cable tying the lamp under the barrel. Didnt look pretty but was just the job. Shot many rabbits and rats with this set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Enjoyed your other videos Frenchie , this sounds it could be a corker . I have tried the camcorder with the shotgun and unfortunately it does not like the recoil and I am a little woried that it is going to damage the camcorder the same as it did with my previous camcorder mounted on my .243 so I wil have to look for an alternative - Maybe something like one of these helmet mounted "sporting" camcorders that they use on mountain bikes ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) lamping with a shot gun can be very effective and lots of fun , it does take practice and you need the same team who more or less predicts eachothers next move . ive done it for years and been very succcesfull in controlling my permissions . safty is the main thing , in the dark on the back of a moving truck with a loaded gun is not for newbies imo a lampa who guides the truck and gun , a driver who knows the land but follows the lamp and a gunner (or 2) who follows the lamp or taps to the lamper if he sees them first . we have a team of 3 who rotates each outing , we manage 3 circuits of the permission a night . i would strongly recomend when shooting from the back of a truck you build yourself a cage so you cant fall out , we also have a pond plant container stuck to the roof to hold cartridges , no fumbling in pockets ! red light filters work to a degree but as allready mentioned you have to think about things before you start , i.e. start down wind so the sound doesnt carry to the next lot and move on accordingly . be safe and have fun ! sorry , just reread your post , get a couple of trustworthy mates on board to help you ! Edited December 1, 2011 by silpig5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake444 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 When my friends old Landover was up and running he use to drive and I was always in the back with the gun/lamp setup (it had no roof). There were a few problem fields and we always found that if we drove steadily down the hedge line the bunnies would run into the fields cut off from their runs and homes. They get confused, lost and dig in and stay low. This always gave a big bag, the shotgun was ideal for quick target acquisition and shooting runners. Nowadays I lamp by foot with the misses, on a windy dark night you can really do some damage and noise is no bother to the rabbits unless you’re out there every night blasting away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hushpower .410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie uk Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I remember years ago when we were on the farm we decided to go lamping at nite and thought it would be a good idea to use the tractor, The farmhand was driving slowly along the headland and my cousin was stood in the front bucket which was raised up so the headlights would illuminate the ground, all worked well until the farmhand on the tractor pulled the lever by accident and the bucket dropped throwing my cousin into the field, him one way and the gun the other... it did seem funny at the time but he wasnt amused !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 My mate and I shot 26 rabbits in 1 field in the space of about an hour and a half... The neighbours weren't overly pleased I must admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davies8990 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Obviously it's going to make noise, but it is still a very effective tool. Sometimes when rabbits are a bit jumpy and won't sit still for a rifle shot, they can be chased down with quad and shotgun. I agree. I have had 80+ with two men shooting out of a pick up and they still give us 60p a head. I personally get bigger bags with shotgun than my 22rf or 17 hmr noise can be an issue if u are close to houses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Would love to see that video Frenchie. Also i have some red purspex at home if you want some PM me your addy and i will post you some, its quite thick but should do the job just nice ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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