sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Has anyone had any bad experience with a Benelli M2 semi and or service from GMK?! I bought a Benelli M2 in Jan this year and have had nothing but trouble with it, right from the strt it was missfiring and would "click", when you pulled the trigger. This is obviously the pin not striking the cartridge head and also on occasion it would not cycle the shot cartridge. Its been back to GMK 3 times and I have had quite pointy conversation with them about fit for purpose and the like but they have just returned the gun back to the dealer again with no information other than "test fired all ok"! I bought the gun for fowling and to be honest I regret the day, the service from GMK has been diabolical and the gun shop has thrown their hands up and I have been left with a nightmare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Never had a problem with mine. The only time i've had a 'click' as you describe is when the bolt hasnt gone forward with enough force to engage properly. Also, only ever had the odd cycling problem, but again that was with 65mm cartridges and they recommend 70mm. AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I have the super black eagle2 and same as above the only problem is when the bolt is not all the way forward Plus this only happens because I have a sling fitted and when the gun is on my shoulder I must catch the bolt and pull it back a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 My M2 will 'click' if the butt is knocked on the ground.....even very lightly. It's not a fault as such....could this be something to do with your problem? It's happened to me loads of times where i've raised the gun only for the dreaded non fire. If you pull the bolt back a little way and make sure it's fully forward prior to pulling the trigger it's fine. If mine was loaded and I pulled the bolt back just an 1" or so then released it to the fully forward position it will not fire, if you then pull the bolt back 2" and ensure it goes forward with a little force and is fully home it fires fine. It's a well known 'problem' with M2's that has been talked about on the American forums. Never had a jam though so there may be some other problem with yours? I did put some heavy loads through mine to start with though, good luck on getting it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thanks for the comments, I am aware that the bolton the M2 needs to be allowed to "Slam" back when loaded, GMK have also said that. One of the many comments passed by them is that "it only needs one bit of sand or grit in the wrong place to cause a problem"! I don't know how to take it on the marsh without getting mud-sand on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) If your really not happy with the gun and they've had enough attempts to fix it then I'd talk to my local trading standards / CAB. Clearly a gun that doesn't fire isn't fit for purpose and if it is a well known fault then it strengthens your case. I would get onto it ASAP though as I think after 12 months it becomes more of a PITA, don't hold me to that though. :yp: Could it be down to the carts they are test firing with having more ooomph? Edited December 21, 2011 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Could it be down to the carts they are test firing with having more ooomph? I have tried diffrent cartridges / loads when it's failed on the marsh and it does'nt seem to make any diffrence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Theres nothing wrong with the gun the bolt has a rotating head if the bolt does not close hard this head done not close back in the chamber resulting in a misfire,Samw with the beretta extrema . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thanks for the comments, I am aware that the bolton the M2 needs to be allowed to "Slam" back when loaded, GMK have also said that. One of the many comments passed by them is that "it only needs one bit of sand or grit in the wrong place to cause a problem"! I don't know how to take it on the marsh without getting mud-sand on it? Mine gets plastered in mud (it has looked quite sad on more than a few occasions) but with the knowledge of the bolt having to be fully home it's been faultless. When I get home I wipe the gun over, let it dry, stick it in the cabinet and know it'll be good to go next time. Sounds like yours may have issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Mine gets plastered in mud (it has looked quite sad on more than a few occasions) but with the knowledge of the bolt having to be fully home it's been faultless. When I get home I wipe the gun over, let it dry, stick it in the cabinet and know it'll be good to go next time. Sounds like yours may have issues? How far do you strip the gun to clean it after every trip out? One of the comments I got from GMK was that the gun was dirty, but to be honest I was so P****d off with the gun not firing that but for losing money I would have cheerfully thrown in the river! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 How far do you strip the gun to clean it after every trip out? One of the comments I got from GMK was that the gun was dirty, but to be honest I was so P****d off with the gun not firing that but for losing money I would have cheerfully thrown in the river! If I see mud on it, i'll wipe it off!.....I honestly don't bother with it much at all. Every now and then i'll run a boresnake through the barrel but that's about it. I did read Benelli's don't like being over oiled internally so don't bother. For me it really has been a use it and chuck it in the cabinet type gun. Occasionally i'll spray gun oil over it and wipe it down. Try tying a length of rope to it, throw it in the river then see what happens?.......it might work better Sorry I can't offer any pearls of wisdom but mine has been 1st class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 If I see mud on it, i'll wipe it off!.....I honestly don't bother with it much at all. Every now and then i'll run a boresnake through the barrel but that's about it. I did read Benelli's don't like being over oiled internally so don't bother. For me it really has been a use it and chuck it in the cabinet type gun. Occasionally i'll spray gun oil over it and wipe it down. Try tying a length of rope to it, throw it in the river then see what happens?.......it might work better Sorry I can't offer any pearls of wisdom but mine has been 1st class. Thanks for all the feed back sounds like I must have a bad one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thanks for all the feed back sounds like I must have a bad one! Give it me for a Xmas gift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Give it me for a Xmas gift Emmmm ..... NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Well am about to buy one of these so fingers crossed mine should be fine ! They have a 5 year garentee and i cant see why i should have any problems with it provided i release the bolt through the TMH uninterrupted it should slam home and close fine with out issue ! The Roatary bolt head isnt unique to the M2 and i know of a few folk with bennellis and i have never herd of them having any issues ! Am going to buy through WMSG as in the summer they are holding a big benelli event there and any problems and I can tip up there and try to speak direct to a benelli member of staff ! It sounds like the biggest let down is with GMK which wouldnt suprise me ! Iv never herd much about them being praised or having done a good job ! Which of the M2`s do you have ? am going for the all black synthetic one ! Edited December 21, 2011 by salop sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Well am about to buy one of these so fingers crossed mine should be fine ! They have a 5 year garentee and i cant see why i should have any problems with it provided i release the bolt through the TMH uninterrupted it should slam home and close fine with out issue ! The Roatary bolt head isnt unique to the M2 and i know of a few folk with bennellis and i have never herd of them having any issues ! Am going to buy through WMSG as in the summer they are holding a big benelli event there and any problems and I can tip up there and try to speak direct to a benelli member of staff ! It sounds like the biggest let down is with GMK which wouldnt suprise me ! Iv never herd much about them being praised or having done a good job ! Which of the M2`s do you have ? am going for the all black synthetic one ! I have the Max4 cammo version, I hope you have better luck than I did with mine. Strange thing is that I never really fancied a semi and did lots of honme work on the Benelli and they came highly recommended from other fowlers that use them, just shows how you can be unlucky and get a bad un?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Are you just going to accept that you have a duff gun or do something about it and get a new one or your money back :yp: If they come with a 5 year warranty that indicates that the manufacturer has confidence it will at least last that long and for it to be having problems after 11 months is not fit for purpose. Have a look at Trading standards / CAB website and write a letter rejecting the gun as it's not fit for purpose, giving them one more attempt to fix it. Send by recorded and see where you go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Are you just going to accept that you have a duff gun or do something about it and get a new one or your money back :yp: If they come with a 5 year warranty that indicates that the manufacturer has confidence it will at least last that long and for it to be having problems after 11 months is not fit for purpose. Have a look at Trading standards / CAB website and write a letter rejecting the gun as it's not fit for purpose, giving them one more attempt to fix it. Send by recorded and see where you go from there. I picked the gun up from shop this afternoon, GMK have had it (again) for the last 4 weeks, the report that came back just says test fired, all Ok? They left a bag of parts in the case with the gun, that have been replaced, apparently the test firing is done on Wednesday of each week, they have replaced various parts on the other 2 occasions that its been back. They say that parts are replaced, depending on the fault, as a matter of course prior to test firing to ..... save time?? I had to take a hard line with them this last time to get the gun looked at again, they were implying that it was my fault and when eventually they agreed to look at it again a senior sales manager was supposedly to follow the process through and make contact with me when decision had been made. What actually happened is they just sent the gun back to the shop without contact with me or the shop! So I will take it out one more time and take legal advise, I just think its sad that a large supplier such as GMK will p*** customers off rather than do the right thing and replace the gun. A sad tale me thinks ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Are you loading the gun as per the instruction manual? I`m assuming that the loading process is the same as my SBE2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Might be worth contacting benelli USA direct and telling them about what's happened by gmk and point out it makes benelli and both there product and service appear to be poor ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Seems fair, but sounds like you have given them alot of chances with an expensive gun. Edited December 21, 2011 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodylt1 Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Are you loading the gun as per the instruction manual? I`m assuming that the loading process is the same as my SBE2. The manual says 2 in the tube first than one in the chamber, there is a diagram in the book that shows a hand holding the bolt open which implies that the breech bolt is not fully / locked open. There is no mention of letting the bolt slam back, close under force. So when the problem first arose GMK said...... "ahhhh well you see your not letting the bolt close from fully open (slam shut) and thats why there is a problem", my reply was ok then but why do your instructions not say that? Luckily I had already done some digging ontinternet and there is mention of the bolt closing issue on various forums so I had adopted that method and it did not solve the problem with my gun. So it seems to me that there is a common "problem", in so far as the breech bolt needs to close under force and that they arnet too keen on admitting it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I know the browning Maxus is possibly the exception to the rule but ive only ever seen people load one into the chamber and release the working parts to the front and then turn it over and load the second and third into the mag ! And thats how i plan to use my M2 and if you watch Tom Knapps videos thats how he does it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yep that's how I load my SBE2 one in the chamber then 2 in the mag The other way is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I picked the gun up from shop this afternoon, GMK have had it (again) for the last 4 weeks, the report that came back just says test fired, all Ok? They left a bag of parts in the case with the gun, that have been replaced, apparently the test firing is done on Wednesday of each week, they have replaced various parts on the other 2 occasions that its been back. They say that parts are replaced, depending on the fault, as a matter of course prior to test firing to ..... save time?? I had to take a hard line with them this last time to get the gun looked at again, they were implying that it was my fault and when eventually they agreed to look at it again a senior sales manager was supposedly to follow the process through and make contact with me when decision had been made. What actually happened is they just sent the gun back to the shop without contact with me or the shop! So I will take it out one more time and take legal advise, I just think its sad that a large supplier such as GMK will p*** customers off rather than do the right thing and replace the gun. A sad tale me thinks ........ Don't take offence to this but do you know anyone else who has an M2 and ask them to have a go with it? A friend of mine got a Montefeltro and he was 'babying' the action which caused the problem you seem to be describing. Although as you're now aware of this i assume you're not still doing it? Are you loading the gun as per the instruction manual? I`m assuming that the loading process is the same as my SBE2. I hope he's not or he'll be on for ages! Yep that's how I load my SBE2 one in the chamber then 2 in the mag The other way is wrong Not according to the manual(!) No wonder they're made with that stupid silver button (mag cut off) if they think loading the magazine, cocking the gun then loading the magazine again is the best way! :blink: Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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