Why is the .22 magnum not so popular these days ?

[welshdragon77]

Hi All,

 

Just wanted to know what u lot think of the .22 mag. Its a cracker of a vermin/predator gun although ammo is a bit expensive. Why is the 17 HMR more popular, than the .22 mag ? Surely the .22 ,mag has more stopping power although the 17 hmr has a flatter trajectory. Does anyone else like and use a .22 mag ?

 

Thanks,

 

Have a lush weekend, out for some bunnies tonight !!!

[dunganick]

you pretty much answered your own question

 

The .22mag does not have a v flat trajectory, the HMR does, the .22mag dosent use balistic tips so is more likely to bounce, the .22mag is very rarely as accurate as a .22lr @ 50/75yards, It makes quite alot of noise for not alot of performance. (but many of these arguments i would put against the HMR.. but lets not go there)

 

The .22mag was just one of those rounds that never really worked in this country. It is however much more popular in the states.

 

The only time i would have a .22mag if i was buying a 10/22. And this would mainly be to make the gun cycle.

 

Its another example of an answer looking for a problem.

[Doggone]

Hi All,

 

Just wanted to know what u lot think of the .22 mag. Its a cracker of a vermin/predator gun although ammo is a bit expensive. Why is the 17 HMR more popular, than the .22 mag ? Surely the .22 ,mag has more stopping power although the 17 hmr has a flatter trajectory. Does anyone else like and use a .22 mag ?

 

Thanks,

 

Have a lush weekend, out for some bunnies tonight !!!

 

 

QUOTE(Frank @ May 24 2006, 06:56 AM)

 

The .22 wmr has an effective range for bunnys for up to 120yds.

If you are using it for foxes, i would not go beyond 80yds and shot placement must be dead on.

 

As for richochets, the Magnum is much the same as the .22lr, when it comes to richochets, so becarefull.

 

Here are some links on the subject:

 

http://www.chuckhawks.com/22mag.htm

 

http://www.volny.cz/buchtik/Revo/22mag_us.htm

 

http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/jun96varmint.html

 

http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/wmr_072804/

 

Cheers,

 

Frank

 

These were some links Frank put up, last time the question was asked, personally I think it's a brilliant gun, read the links, it's all true, by the way you can get ballistic tips, hollow nose etc etc

[dunganick]

Hi All,

 

Just wanted to know what u lot think of the .22 mag. Its a cracker of a vermin/predator gun although ammo is a bit expensive. Why is the 17 HMR more popular, than the .22 mag ? Surely the .22 ,mag has more stopping power although the 17 hmr has a flatter trajectory. Does anyone else like and use a .22 mag ?

 

Thanks,

 

Have a lush weekend, out for some bunnies tonight !!!

 

 

QUOTE(Frank @ May 24 2006, 06:56 AM)

 

The .22 wmr has an effective range for bunnys for up to 120yds.

If you are using it for foxes, i would not go beyond 80yds and shot placement must be dead on.

 

As for richochets, the Magnum is much the same as the .22lr, when it comes to richochets, so becarefull.

 

Here are some links on the subject:

 

http://www.chuckhawks.com/22mag.htm

 

http://www.volny.cz/buchtik/Revo/22mag_us.htm

 

http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/jun96varmint.html

 

http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/wmr_072804/

 

Cheers,

 

Frank

 

These were some links Frank put up, last time the question was asked, personally I think it's a brilliant gun, read the links, it's all true, by the way you can get ballistic tips, hollow nose etc etc

 

personally i think its an awful round

 

thats based on personal experiance

 

as much as it pains me to say it...... the HMR would be a far better choice. It can do everything the .22mag can but better and safer, and as its supersonic who cares about the noise it makes.

 

I wasnt aware that it was avalible with b/tips, still dont think i would have one over a HMR unless i wanted a 10/22

[wambamboo]

I use the .22 mag on foxes out to 100 yds max.You have to choose your shots

but gets the job done.underated round if you ask me.But each to their own.

 

regards wam

[Ben the hitman]

I have just exchanged my savage 17 for a remy 22mag slr, the best thing I ever did. The 17 was ok if there was no breeze and after 100 yards no hope. my remy has no propblems its more accurate and it shoots fast and flat.

 

The ammo can be expensive but not much more than the 17, and firing that on semi auto is good. a lot more omph that the 22lr and I would add it kicks up more dirt than the 17. I can also get CCI ammo from £8.99 per 50

 

A great shooter

[hkrobin]

I think it has an awful lot to do with the police in many areas preferring .17hmr due to ricochets. In a lot of cases, even if you specifically request a .22wmr they won't let you have one.

[wambamboo]

As said before gets the job done . Not as good as a centre fire for charles but does the job at sensible ranges .

[08shooter]

i think the 22 wmr is a capable round. the country is full of them over here at one time the dealers shelves were full of magnums handed in when the hmr appeared but they have recently told me a lot of guys are changing back to the magnum or going centrefire. apparently they think the hmr is too affected by wind at longer ranges.i would nt be scared of a 22 magnum im sure it would be quite capable if shot placement was good. i do understand they are probably classed as old skool.in n ireland you were lucky to be allowed a wmr for foxing its only recently they have allowed centre fire.

[Darky]

I got rid of my HMR in favour of a WMR. With Federal 50 grain rounds it is great for foxes up to 80 yards. It has been very useful for small parcels of land where a centrefire is a no-no. If shooting on more open land, my mate takes a centrefire for the long shots, and if they pop up close I have a go with the WMR.

[Dekers]

I got rid of my HMR in favour of a WMR. With Federal 50 grain rounds it is great for foxes up to 80 yards. It has been very useful for small parcels of land where a centrefire is a no-no. If shooting on more open land, my mate takes a centrefire for the long shots, and if they pop up close I have a go with the WMR.

 

Sounds a pretty useful tool in the above circumstances, to be honest I have used everthing up to 40g in mine but never a 50g.

 

What are they like, is the Federal HP/SP/or what, and what about cost??

 

Cheers!

[wymberley]

Hi,

We've done this quite recently and as then, I rate these highly for rabbit (long range) and fox (short range). They are round sensitive so try various. Mine loved the Federal 50gr but they changed the spec. so now it's my bad luck that I use the expensive RWS. However, this has the greatest ME of all the makes and is even more accurate than the Federal (in my rifle). The Remmy tip (33gr) is tasty, but not for me (accuracy) and because of its high BC eventually exceeds the energy of the RWS downrange.

Cheers

[Darky]

Sounds a pretty useful tool in the above circumstances, to be honest I have used everthing up to 40g in mine but never a 50g.

 

What are they like, is the Federal HP/SP/or what, and what about cost??

 

Cheers!

 

The Federal rounds are jacketed hollow point, cost about the same as HMR ammo.

 

Shot a vixen this evening at about 60yds, straight in the chest, game over. With a moderator the noise isn't too bad. No one in the houses 100yds away took any notice. The landowner was happy as he has lambs and chickens.