Thedeerman Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I got done for speeding in november on the M6. The only time the motorway was clear enough to get any speed up and they had a man with a camera on a bridge in Cheshire. Swines! I was doing 86mph in my transit van I was offered a motorway driving course, 3 points and a fine or a court appearance. I decided it was best to take the course and avoid the points. I expected there to be course run locally at sensible times so I could attend around work. Instead I have to drive to Winsford in Cheshire from Leicestershire on a weekday for a 3 1/2 hour telling off! I wish I'd taken the points now! Has anybody attended a Motorway driving course before?? Is it the same as a speed awareness course?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 your lucky as you should only do 60 on a motorway . the courses are good if you learn , if not its just a day out . points should be told to the insursance asap or they can cancel your insurance in the event of a claim . sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 your lucky as you should only do 60 on a motorway . thats interesting on one hand and entirely wrong on another, in a transit the motorway limit is 70 dual carriageways where its signed national speed limit its 60 however if signed 70 you can do 70. I only know one bit though on the A1 in scotland not that I've driven more than a few miles in said sized vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bry-M Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Insurance can't be cancelled after an accident because you haven't declared points/modifications etc. It's a well perpetuated myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 i think it depends on what weight the transit is rated at ie 2.7 t 3.5t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Since when has the M6 been 60 limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Insurance can't be cancelled after an accident because you haven't declared points/modifications etc. It's a well perpetuated myth. Errr they can - and it depends what the policy documents say. They may be entitled to repudiate the policy but they would remain liable to pay out on any claim under the Road Traffic Act and thereafter they can sue you to make a recovery on their outlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 i stand to be corrected , but i was under the impression that my 3.5 ton transit cant go 70 on duel or motorway . if i can then all the better , and it was a good friend of mine who aranges insurance who told me it was common practice to revoke or at least claim back any payouts for false staements , gaining points and not informing them is false statement . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) I understand that by attending the course, I wont have any points to declare to my insurance?? Thats the point of the course, no?? The limit for anything up to 7.5T is 70mph on a motorway Edited January 11, 2012 by zeff1357 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) http://www.smartdriving.co.uk/Driving/DefensiveDriving/Speed/UK_Speed_limits.html Edited January 11, 2012 by Gnome of the Woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) yep , sorry , just checked dvla web site . vans 70 on motorways 60 on duel. again sorry Goods vehicles (under 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112) If articulated, or towing a trailer, limit is 60 Edited January 11, 2012 by silpig5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Depends on the course, if it is a speed awareness course then completion of the course means no prosecution so no points if its 3 points + course or court then you have 3 points. Missus was done for 86 on the M4 in my car and did the course no points ironically she got points 7 years ago the same place going in the opposite direction. Course was £85 i think for her i did one a couple of years ago for 36 in a 30 in Avon & somerset was £60 course for £60 fine and points! Did the course was told i did not need to declare it to insurance or for FAC/SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 So is it normal to have to travel to the county that the offence was committed in?? I'm sure guys at work did the speed wareness course locally? You would think it was a national thing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 i got zaped with a camara this week doing about 40 in 30 zone its one of those just waiting moments when you no its comeing fru the post i once was in ireland on a concract on got pulled over for doing 70 on a 60 road i said i didint realeise with the signs being in kilomiters he replied no! its to fast for a van to be traverling i replied so its not to fast for a car to be traverling he wasint happey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 So is it normal to have to travel to the county that the offence was committed in?? I'm sure guys at work did the speed wareness course locally? You would think it was a national thing?? Phone them and ask for it to be moved to a local appointment, one of the girls at work got a placement on a course in Peterborough rather than Leicester where the offence took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 So is it normal to have to travel to the county that the offence was committed in?? I'm sure guys at work did the speed wareness course locally? You would think it was a national thing?? Most if not all the courses are run by ex coppers, the force basically subs the work to them. The guy who thought of it is a multi millionaire surprisingly enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Phone them and ask for it to be moved to a local appointment, one of the girls at work got a placement on a course in Peterborough rather than Leicester where the offence took place. I thought it had to be done where it occured but they may move it for you, so is it a speed awareness course or something else? This is another example of police forces making it as they go along (no national continuity of offering the course or the format!) My course was ex council employees... a retired teacher and a retired part time librarian Much better idea than ex coppers! They at least have a background in education Edited January 11, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 only have to tell the insurer when you come up to renewal if you got any points during that year of insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 only have to tell the insurer when you come up to renewal if you got any points during that year of insurance will try n scan the aviva gumf , when you get them not when you renew now . double checked with the bint , its on most schedules . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I thought it had to be done where it occured but they may move it for you, so is it a speed awareness course or something else? The letter states that it is a Motorway Safety course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 The letter states that it is a Motorway Safety course. NO ideas then mate perhaps they use those for people who do things that aren't breaking the speed limit, undertaking etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) will try n scan the aviva gumf , when you get them not when you renew now . double checked with the bint , its on most schedules . some put into their policy conditions a clause which states that any material facts such as convictions must be disclosed immediately but I cant see them being able to charge extra during the policy year for it. Think some insurers only brought this in the last couple of years but when I had points during the policy year I rang and asked and they said will note it down but wont affect anything till renewal and then said I did not have to tell them :blink: Edited January 11, 2012 by leeds chimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 i stand to be corrected , but i was under the impression that my 3.5 ton transit cant go 70 on duel or motorway . if i can then all the better , and it was a good friend of mine who aranges insurance who told me it was common practice to revoke or at least claim back any payouts for false staements , gaining points and not informing them is false statement . they wont do 70mph anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 they wont do 70mph anywhere Mine is limited to 105mph. Probably a good job too. I've basically got the sport transit without the stupid stripes and wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I have got a new transit it is a 200 T350 pickup and it has a 3.2 mph engine and the only thing it cannot pass is a fuel station but speed wise i would imagine it would do 120mph quite easy Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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