dan-250 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Hi guys, I'm rather new to the black stuff, so what's the best way about getting the numbers down quick so the farmer can see im doing my bit, this is a new permission and will be a very good 1 for me as it's on my doorstep, so I'm eager to please and do a good job ? Is it worth decoying ? As all I have are pigeon decoys, I have a rotary Which has dead bird cradles. And could put some tights over the pigeon deeks. I presume 32 6's will be ok ? I have 2 guns with fixed chokes one at 1/4 and 1/2 the other at 3/4 and full, which would be the best to take ? I shoot just as bad with both guns. Any help is great and even a day out could be a possibility depending on what the farmer says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Hi guys, I'm rather new to the black stuff, so what's the best way about getting the numbers down quick so the farmer can see im doing my bit, this is a new permission and will be a very good 1 for me as it's on my doorstep, so I'm eager to please and do a good job ? Is it worth decoying ? As all I have are pigeon decoys, I have a rotary Which has dead bird cradles. And could put some tights over the pigeon deeks. I presume 32 6's will be ok ? I have 2 guns with fixed chokes one at 1/4 and 1/2 the other at 3/4 and full, which would be the best to take ? I shoot just as bad with both guns. Any help is great and even a day out could be a possibility depending on what the farmer says. Find out where they are feeding, get there early in the morning and put out a few decoys, make sure you have a really good hide or they will spot you instantly. Add to the decoys with dead birds as you shoot them. I have managed to shoot some reasonable bags this way. Try dead birds on the rotary, as this sometimes works. Flappers with a dead bird on work well and having a decent crow call helps as well. I would say 32g 6's through 1/4 & 1/2 chokes would be absolutely fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 As stated. get there as early as poss. chuck half a dozen deeks out. get int the hide and keep still. take loads of carts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Cheers guys, I'll still to te decoys tho, I don't have a ferret and I wouldn't want to keep a blackie alive if it's in pain. I'll make the best possible hide, the farmer is that fed up with them he'd quite happily bring me bales or anything else to hide behind. Although I have a good net, camo, I best crack on and buy a call and a face net then Are there certain decoys that work with crows ? Like pigeons people say flocked ? Or to a crow is shiney better ? Is it also worth building a ladder trap and putting that out, at least that way the farmer should hopefully think I'm trying my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 As a lot have said get there early , but also be aware they feed well mid to late afternoon before roost One farm i have you will shoot 5-10 early morning but get there at 1-30 and shoot till dusk you average 40 plus Just like pigeons you need to spend a bit of time watching to get the big bags ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphin Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Cheers guys, I'll still to te decoys tho, I don't have a ferret and I wouldn't want to keep a blackie alive if it's in pain. I'll make the best possible hide, the farmer is that fed up with them he'd quite happily bring me bales or anything else to hide behind. Although I have a good net, camo, I best crack on and buy a call and a face net then Are there certain decoys that work with crows ? Like pigeons people say flocked ? Or to a crow is shiney better ? Is it also worth building a ladder trap and putting that out, at least that way the farmer should hopefully think I'm trying my best. get there early as stated try black socks on pigeons to get you started but dont try the ferret or clipped crow as not sure about bagging up but you will deffo get banged up if caught atb dolphin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Make every shot count as crows wise up very fast once you shoot a particular field one or twice don't go back & try decoying them again for a good few weeks as they will not come near trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Hmm maybe more awkward than first thought. Is there any problems with just having a walk around and getting a few flying ones ? I basically have free run on the farm so can go from field to field if need be as they are everywhere. or is it worth going with the air rifle to there roosting spot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney 66 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 decoys & crow call and u should get some good numbers,i have done as well mid morning as getting there early or even in the afternoon,good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratts Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Interesting to read this as I'm in the same boat with a new permission that has loads of rooks that occupy some spinneys. If we were to bag a few would freezing them and re-using like you do pigeons be a good idea on a rotary and pegged out on the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hmm maybe more awkward than first thought. Is there any problems with just having a walk around and getting a few flying ones ? I basically have free run on the farm so can go from field to field if need be as they are everywhere. or is it worth going with the air rifle to there roosting spot ? You might get the odd one by walking around, but their eyesight is so good it wont be easy. If you have access to the roosting woods, get there just before dark and catch them flighting in with a shotgun. It's normally just about dark before they roost so no need to worry too much about a hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 1st light has always proved good for me. Get yourself a Primos Power crow caller, they are excellent. Crow decoys help bring them in. Also, I use a flapper with crow attached. Normally, the Crows go nuts when they see the bird 'flapping', as they think it could be injured. Floaters also help to guide the Crows into your killing zone. Camo yourself up as much as possible. Crows have excellent eyesight, and will spot you easily, especially if you don't keep still in the hide etc. Crow shooting ranks as my #1 in vermin control. Steve. Interesting to read this as I'm in the same boat with a new permission that has loads of rooks that occupy some spinneys. If we were to bag a few would freezing them and re-using like you do pigeons be a good idea on a rotary and pegged out on the ground? I always take some of my 'kills' home with me, and freeze them down to use next time. Nothing better than a 'real' decoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 A couple of decoys and a loaf of bread!!!!! Break the bread up and loosly scatter it in your pattern, go set your hide up and sit and be patient. I have used this several times and had some really good bags also you can try a dead rabbit with its belly split. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I went the other day it's not as bad as the farmer makes out, got 11 blacks and 3 pigeons for 20 shots. Not good I know but was feeling a tad rusty. Isn't baiting the floor illegal tho ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodit Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Im sure I have read some where that an owl decoy will bring crows and the like in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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