Andy135 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Zapp to the rescue! Thanks, will leave it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 No worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 ok, guys, went on a shopping spree. got the norfolknog brewing kit, its on the go at the moment. as well as the ingredients for another super stout. this will be my first experiment with safale05 yeast, traditionally used for american dry beers. should produce a very nice clean malt tasting brew. will let you know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'll be interested to see what you think of the S04, I've tried a couple of fairly simple brews with it that I've tried with other yeasts and was surprised how 'zingingly' crisp it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working dog Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yeast plays a big part in the end result of any beer. US05 is a very clean, neutral yeast and will enhance the hop profile rather than the malt. S04 gives more of a buttery/smooth taste to the beer and takes away the hopiness to an extent. Different yeasts are just that - they are different. Whether the beer is better of worse is down to personal preference. I tend to use Nottingham yeast for most beers as it is a neutral yeast, much like US05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) ok, guys, went on a shopping spree. got the norfolknog brewing kit, its on the go at the moment. as well as the ingredients for another super stout. this will be my first experiment with safale05 yeast, traditionally used for american dry beers. should produce a very nice clean malt tasting brew. will let you know how it goes. Good yeast US05 use it myself in IPA's and pale ales... I'll be interested to see what you think of the S04, I've tried a couple of fairly simple brews with it that I've tried with other yeasts and was surprised how 'zingingly' crisp it was. My mainstay is S04 use it more than any other yeast in everything from ales to stouts. Edited January 8, 2013 by The Shootist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 One thing about S05 is that it can take a very long time to drop out of suspension in a cask. I get around this when using it by taking a sachet of unflavoured gelatin (from the baking aisle in any supermarket), which I then add to 100-200ml of cold water in a small pan and then leave it for 15 mins. After 15 mins, I turn on the heat and, whilst stirring all the time, bring it to exactly 80 degrees C, and then take it straight off the heat. This sterilises it without denaturing the gelatin. I then add this solution to the keg with my priming solution and rack the beer in on top as normal, and hey presto, crystal clear beer in about 3 days (it will still need the normal amount of time to condition though, sadly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 yeah, i heard that the yeast takes ages to drop out, but i`ve the time. i was just interested in having a clean crispy brew, the stout kits are not really hoppy, and the darker roasted grains offer alot of flavour. i have been using nottingham for nearly all brews, so this will be the first proper "using a different yeast." i`ll be bottling, but i think it will still take a while to clear. what fun ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 S05 clears better in the bottle than it does in a cask - there is less distance for it to fall. I found that it packed down quite well too, but then I did give it 8 weeks in the bottle. If you have two fermenters there is nothing to stop you gelatining in one and then racking to another to minimise the yeast for bottling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 just picked up a job lot of wine and beer making stuff....will be sorting it all out tomorrow and see what I dont need..... Going to get some batches on the go and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Zapp, have you used isinglass finings? I mainly use S05 but I tend not to use finings at home as the beer isn;'t really going anywhere so I'm happy to let it settle naturally whether it is in a keg or a cask. But if I cask up some beer to take somewhere else, I use isinglass and I think it's superb. It will allow the beer to clear 3 or 4 times before it loses the charge which causes the particles to settle so it's really useful if the cask is going to get moved about a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 I use isinglass at the micro, but not at home. It is excellent stuff as you say, but I find gelatine will also fine quickly and repeatedly in a 40 pint pin, plus it is easy to store in its dry form and takes up no space at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 well, i've been shopping again, and i got the bargin of the century. went into my not so local wilkinsons. they have 2 tin kits available for only £16 http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/search?q=*&parentCategoryRef=70&pdxtbrandn=Wilko&setpagenum=6&perpage=12 thats 40p a pint for a 2 tin kit, that is great value. i bought the real ale and golden ale. localy a wherry is £28.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 well, i've been shopping again, and i got the bargin of the century. went into my not so local wilkinsons. they have 2 tin kits available for only £16 http://www.wilkinson...um=6&perpage=12 thats 40p a pint for a 2 tin kit, that is great value. i bought the real ale and golden ale. localy a wherry is £28.99 cracking find that...quite a few bits are cheaper than the brew centre I use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I've been slowly building a new brewery set up for ages. Boiler is done, mash tun is done and I've now eventually finished my hot liquor tank. It'll be gas heated to save faffing about with electric elements. 100l stainless pot fitted with ball valve tap and sight tube - the hlt will sit at high level (7ft) in my garage and will be plumbed in so the sight tube is so I can fill it from ground level without having to climb up to see how much water it needs Close up of the sight tube fitting - it's a pneumatic push cinnector elbow with a poly carbonate tube On the inside of the tap, there's a dip tube to make sure the tank can drain all the way to the bottom. The tap is 5cm or so above the base of the tank but will drain via a syphon so it will completely empty the tank Hopefully, just a little bit more fettling and I'll be good to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 cool, i`m thinking about going brew in bag.... just need to look into it more.... sober. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'll take a camera with me next time I go up to get some pics of our commercial setup if anyone would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'd certainly be interested in seeing that Zapp. Always nice to see how it's done properly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Your kit is looking very swish, I'm jealous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I wouldn't get too jealous Zapp, you've got a set up 10 times bigger and you get to see your beer behind the bar in real pubs Have you started bottled production yet? I'd be interested to hear when it's readily available to the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 It is still very swish though, but yes, seeing our beer at the pumps never gets old. We arent bottling just yet, probably a couple more months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Gonna be busy next week ... and a few weeks after ! Got 54 Kg of assorted grain coming monday Enough for a few brews Edited March 2, 2013 by The Shootist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 cool, i`m thinking about going brew in bag.... just need to look into it more.... sober. Hi mate, I've posted this link earlier in the thread but it's easily missed, I brew BIAB ( brew in a bag) http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=13457&hilit=gail+porter this is a brew day I had a couple of years ago with pictures to explain the process. It is a viable way into all grain brewing if you are on a budget as you only use one vessel. You also start with the total volume of water used so no need to sparge, as long as you work out losses before you start as in, loss to grain/hop absorbtion, boil off you will hit the mark every time pretty much. I've never had any issue with hitting the gravity I'm after, I think maybe because the mash is quite loose due to the large volume of water then all the sugars and good stuff get washed out nicely. Well worth a try, people can't believe it is home brewed as often it's better than what you'll get in a pub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 so guys, i`d like to update you on the beers i`ve been producing. first, i thought i`d mullerd a batch of beer, it was using s05 and was an experiment, a kit brew stout with 1kg of dark spraymalt added. s05 is a real workhorse. OMG i thought the fermenter was going to take off ! bottle conditioned, s05 drops like a rock. as for the taste, after 3-4 weeks, kinda rubbish, i thought i was stuck with it. then i left it for a good while, while i "look" at some norfolk NOG i previously bottled. then after alot of time, got the courage to try it again, turned out to be a very crispy dry beer. not unpleasent, very soft palate, doesnt really tick all the beer boxes, but its crisp, unusually clean. my brewing friend tried a few them, he was quite positive. i`ve started a wilko 2 can kit, with some nottingham. went off like a rocket. bottle soon. next projects. brewbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 next projects. brewbag. Hi mate, if you need a big stock pot for BIAB either google or ebay bergland24_france it's a french supplier of catering equipment, including stainless steel stock pots anywhere from 20l to 100l in capacity, typically a 50l one would cost about £40-£45 delivered to the uk they're loads cheaper than any UK based stuff I've seen. Don't be put off by the fact they are in france or on ebay, if you try and order one they email you and organise it all for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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