Beretta28g Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 yep, 5 of them i don't think beretta subscribe to the fleur de lys mark, from what i remember benelli don't either, mine says excelsior high strength alloy steel with a few stamped marks dotted here and there, from what i read in the book, they recommend not to use steel in fixed choke guns, and in multi choke no more than half choke, they also mention "beretta SP" this stands for steel proofed, but i can't find a mark on the barrels denoting this, anyone shed any light? cheers, gram. My ultralight has the fleur de lys on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 beretta use a funni little sign , will show you mine if you show me yours . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 The original 686 was lighter than 687 and the 687 was multi whereas the 686 was fixed choke - sounds like that has changed over the years. The 687 used to have a schnabel fore end and the 686 was fluted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Could you check to see if the gun is magnum steel proofed (fleur de lys stamp) please, because on the Beretta site, it suggests that its not Just checked my gun mate, its stamped 12 GA 3 1/2 29 1/2 STEEL SHOT, hope this helps, they were made more for the american market, one of the best guns Ive had for awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 yep, 5 of them i don't think beretta subscribe to the fleur de lys mark, from what i remember benelli don't either, mine says excelsior high strength alloy steel with a few stamped marks dotted here and there, from what i read in the book, they recommend not to use steel in fixed choke guns, and in multi choke no more than half choke, they also mention "beretta SP" this stands for steel proofed, but i can't find a mark on the barrels denoting this, anyone shed any light? cheers, gram. My ultralight has the fleur de lys on it. Just checked my gun mate, its stamped 12 GA 3 1/2 29 1/2 STEEL SHOT, hope this helps, they were made more for the american market, one of the best guns Ive had for awhile My previous 686 had the fluer de lys stamped on the barrels also. http://www.beretta.com/Long-guns/Field-guns/Over-and-Unders/686-Silver-Pigeon-S/index.aspx?m=82&f=2&idv=1&id=9 The 12g and 20g 3'' chambered guns are marked as magnum steel with the fluer de lys, but the 3.5'' was not, thats why I was unsure. If it says steel shot then it is steel proofed, strange that Beretta dont just stick to one set of proof marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Sound mate no probs,just glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think its mainly the grade of workmanship. If i am right(it could just be the ones i have used) 686's dont have Multi chokes and are more or a cheaper gun than the 687's. You certainly wont go wrong with beretta! My 686 white onyx has multi chokes lovely gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 not a lot some old 686s even before they were called silver pigeon were multi choke. as dunkield said the fore end different. both great and most if not all the newer ones are ok for steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) seems strange that a gun would have a 3" chamber but no steel proof mark, according to the link previously mine should have a proof mark, 12g, 30" barrels, m/c, silver pig s. My previous 686 was made in the earlt 90's, that was m/c too. Edited May 9, 2012 by GRAM71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Guys, forgot to say thanks for your help, so thanks had a gander at the 687 and it does look like it's just a bit better wood and engraving, still chuffed to bits with it thanks jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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