MirokuMK70 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm fancying stripping my lightning XL stock and oiling it. Its a beech stock with a darker stain - I don't mind the colour of the stain, I just want to remove the shiny varnish. If I use nitro mors, will it strip just the varnish or also the stain? - don't fancy having to remove all the stain back to bare wood and starting again with trying to get the colour right... Also, if I nitro mors it, will I have to use wire wool etc to actually shift the varnish, therefore possibly making the stain/colour patchy?? just don't want to start on it and possibly ruin the stock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 To strip the varnish mix caustic soda in wallpaper paste. You can make it as strong or weak as you like. Much cheaper than nitr mors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm fancying stripping my lightning XL stock and oiling it. Its a beech stock with a darker stain - I don't mind the colour of the stain, I just want to remove the shiny varnish. If I use nitro mors, will it strip just the varnish or also the stain? - don't fancy having to remove all the stain back to bare wood and starting again with trying to get the colour right... Also, if I nitro mors it, will I have to use wire wool etc to actually shift the varnish, therefore possibly making the stain/colour patchy?? just don't want to start on it and possibly ruin the stock! Once you remove the varnish you will inevitably start to cut into the colour; been there done that. And then you will have to try and re-stain it which won't match, so you will have to sand it all off and start again. At which point you will find that the stain will colour end grain areas better than flat grain areas, so it will all look patchy. If it was Walnut.....no problem. But Beech......sheesh!!! G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) Nitro mors will still require you to scrub it off. Then sanding to smooth the wood back again. It will remove some of the stain by the fact that the gunk needs rinsing off after. If done properly though you will be absolutely thrilled with the result I think varnished stocks look tacky, I don't know why some of the premium berettas and others still use it. It makes the wood look and feel like plastic! Give it a go, if youre worried about cocking it up I could always take a look at it for you? My link Edited July 14, 2012 by fo5ter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gozzy Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 The title of this thread is misleading and not at all what I thought it was going to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyTed Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Once you remove the varnish you will inevitably start to cut into the colour; been there done that. And then you will have to try and re-stain it which won't match, so you will have to sand it all off and start again. At which point you will find that the stain will colour end grain areas better than flat grain areas, so it will all look patchy. If it was Walnut.....no problem. But Beech......sheesh!!! G.M. Been there, done that. Why did I bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 This is what happens to a stock after nitromoors a sand and stain and around 15 coats of linseed oil. If i was to do it again would have paid someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Beech is hard to re-finish well, walnut is easy. The biggest issue with beech is people expect it to look like walnut. It excepts stain and oil poorly i have only re-finish one beech stock that i like and its is pretty much beech colour honeyed up with age and burr walnut cappings. being faced with another beech stock to re-finish i would be more tempted to paint it personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timb Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Did my M70 a few months back. Used Nitromors and had to restain the wood, but after putting some effort in the end result is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 The title of this thread is misleading and not at all what I thought it was going to be Perve, :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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