Wurzle Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have a luxano for messing around and it shoots everything without a problem. Check that everything is as it should be. Don't see the need for a 3.5 my self but that is only the chamber size. Sounds like it has a fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have a luxano for messing around and it shoots everything without a problem. Check that everything is as it should be. Don't see the need for a 3.5 my self but that is only the chamber size. Sounds like it has a fault. don`t think there`s a fault, it`s just that people keep trying to use lighter loads the manual states nothing less than 32grm 700mil carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I tried out my new Hatsan 3" this evening- worked like a flaming charm!! As a test, a friend lent me some really pathetic 21gm carts and it cycled them without even blinking! I can't get over the lack of recoil with the VIPs, which hammered me when I used someones OU the other week, unbelievable. Subsonicat- I saw your comment about lengthening a gun's stock and this made my life a lot easier tonight. Cheers for all your advice and help people! Good to hear! My 3" escort is awesome and works great, keep the piston clean and she will work fine ! I use 24g gamebore super steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Good to hear! My 3" escort is awesome and works great, keep the piston clean and she will work fine ! I use 24g gamebore super steel. Ahhhhhh, there we go again, See you are useing Steel cartridges,,, Let us NOT FORGET the fact, Steel burns a FASTER POWDER::: So you do get a CLEANER Burn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Problem with the Comp-X is the length, they are 1.6 to 2mm shorter than any other 67mm cart I've had, it's nothing to do with the power, they won't even cycle by hand, if you have 2 in the mag tube they both come out together and jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravo2 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I have had exactly the same experience as phaedra1106 with Comp X in my escort - two cartridges come out of the mag simultaneously which causes a jam. It cycles everything else perfectly - no complaints at all for what is a good value shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 sorry to jump on your thread Granty with a problem of my own. i bought a used 3 inch escort last week. the previous owner told me it hadnt had much use and looking at the condition i believe him as it was like new... all seemed clean and tidy inside so i popped up a local farm, not a lot there so i only got of 7 shots and 2 or 3 of them wouldnt load the new cart... i used 70mm 32 gramm gamebore clear pigeon 6 with a fibre wad. after someone on here mentioned it i checked the two holes in the barrel to make sure they where clear which they where (the gun was spotless) so today i went out again to the same place to try it again, yet again very little about and i managed to fire 7 carts again (really hope that 7 doesnt become a habbit!) anyway twice it wouldnt load the new cart :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockers Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 I have a 3.5inch chambered hatsan and had the same problem with jams. in the end after various thorough cleaning sesssions and tests with different cartridges i decided to take it in to the local gunsmiths. £60 later problem solved. The magazine had a slight bulge in it which i had tried filing down and was preventing the 2nd cartridge from loading. best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 went out again today, im told its usually a cracking farm but i think someone had been there before we got there as was bug*er all around... but out of 3 shots. one the new cart jammed and one it didnt eject the old cart.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 went out again today, im told its usually a cracking farm but i think someone had been there before we got there as was bug*er all around... but out of 3 shots. one the new cart jammed and one it didnt eject the old cart.. Got to ask, is the O ring intact and in the right place, as this can cause problems. While its clean is there a light coating oil on the moving parts, when I cleaned mine I would say I over oiled it as when shooting oil was dripping out out of the gas vents on the fore end good job its synthetic vers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 o ring looks ok, no signs of perishing or cracks and splits in it... cant be 100% if its right as ive not had an escort before. heres a photo of it... i took the barel of so you can see it clearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 sorry to jump on your thread Granty with a problem of my own. i bought a used 3 inch escort last week. the previous owner told me it hadnt had much use and looking at the condition i believe him as it was like new... all seemed clean and tidy inside so i popped up a local farm, not a lot there so i only got of 7 shots and 2 or 3 of them wouldnt load the new cart... i used 70mm 32 gramm gamebore clear pigeon 6 with a fibre wad. after someone on here mentioned it i checked the two holes in the barrel to make sure they where clear which they where (the gun was spotless) so today i went out again to the same place to try it again, yet again very little about and i managed to fire 7 carts again (really hope that 7 doesnt become a habbit!) anyway twice it wouldnt load the new cart :( Are the Gambore clear pigeon carts not just 65 mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Kiffy, I have just checked they are 70mm, I use the 30gr ones and they are 65mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 i thought i was loosing the plot for a second as i could have sworn they had 70mm on the side.. glad to see your second post saved me going to find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 The picture looks good and the O ring is in the right place, and clean, not as much oil on yours as mine, though I well and truly over oiled mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 there is a fine layer of oil on mine but not a shed load by any means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 went out again today, im told its usually a cracking farm but i think someone had been there before we got there as was bug*er all around... but out of 3 shots. one the new cart jammed and one it didnt eject the old cart.. Next time take an OU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 to be honest i probably will, id rather take the escort as thats the reason i bought it.. if it got knocked about while walking the farm i wouldnt be to peeved as even though my O/U wasnt an expensive one its stil three times what i paid for the escort satill need to find out whats wrong with it though :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 went out again today, im told its usually a cracking farm but i think someone had been there before we got there as was bug*er all around... but out of 3 shots. one the new cart jammed and one it didnt eject the old cart.. i forgot to mention in my post that the third shot, the one where the cart never edjected happened when i was sitting in a hide with the gun on my lap. i am 99% sure i didnt have my hand anywhere near the trigger (also could have sowrn the safety was on). although im new to shotguns i have shot for well over 20 years so understandf the importance of gun safety and not sitting holding the trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 What some have said to do with a new s/a is to get a box of heavier load cartridges to bed or run it in knocking off any rough edges, noticed yours is not new but has only fired a few cartridges. I have never used this method, and normally use the cartridges that I normally use, with my escort I did have to change cartridges as it would not cycle the soft comp x's. A king person gave me some Hull super fast plastic wads to try the other night. They cycled ok, might be worth trying a different make or cartridge to see if you have the same problem with different ones. At the moment I am using Hull intercomp 28G fibres and they cycle fine, I believe the 28G version are no longer made unfortunately and now come in 24G :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 If you can shoot plastic try some Eley Olympics 70mm 28g run well through most semi's might be worth a couple of boxes and a round of clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 If you can shoot plastic try some Eley Olympics 70mm 28g run well through most semi's might be worth a couple of boxes and a round of clays These were the others I tried and they work well in the escort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 i heard back from the guy i bought the gun of today, he said tha the used palstic wad carts as he had issues when using fibre wad.. any other escort users found the same issue? i only have fibre wads at the moment so cant try plastic to verify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 It would be odd for the Wad to be the cause at least it's not something i have heard of.... It's normally cart length or load which effect the cycling light loads and short carts are a struggle for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I am using fibre wads, I tend to avoid plastic wads as some grounds I use are fibre only, saves having to stock both types. Currently using some old stock of Hull inter comp HV 28G fibre (no longer avaible in 28G). All the ones friends gave me to try were plastic wads, did not notice any difference in cycling apart from the first trip out when used comp X's fibres (very soft cartridge) in it, and when the workings covered in packing grease. Will try the Comp X's again later after a good few cartridges have been put through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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