markws80 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hi all a mate of mine applying for his sgc has cabinet installed etc only problem is he has been arrested several times for assault + battery and was also remanded in custody in her majestys prisons for 3days but was released with bo charges or further action taken with every arrest I HOPE NOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 from that description we know nothing, could be false allegations from his missus for all we know. As he wasn't charged on any of them it will depend entirely on the actual facts and his version of events. Not being charged does sort of imply innocence and FEO's struggle to work on speculation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 That's what I never understand. We get asked for an opinion with very little fact and a lot of vague hints. Why ask for an opinion without the full script.? Pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 arrested several times for assault...sounds perfect candidate for guns. I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) arrested several times for assault...sounds perfect candidate for guns. I sure hope not. Being arrested is different from being charged, we need to know the outcome of the arrests before giving an opinion. When a prisoner was released from prison he was read the firearms act, (I think this is correct) if having served less than four yrs, he was banned from owning or carrying a firearm or replica for 5 yrs. If he served four yrs or over he was banned for life. the nature of the crime didn`t matter, I assume that after five yrs he would be able to apply for a certificate, to enable him to own the said firearm. Maybe this is where the nature of the crime comes in. I retired from the Prison service 7yrs ago so this may no longer be correct Edited September 26, 2012 by malantone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Being arrested is different from being charged, we need to know the outcome of the arrests before giving an opinion. When a prisoner was released from prison he was read the firearms act, (I think this is correct) if having served less than four yrs, he was banned from owning or carrying a firearm or replica for 5 yrs. If he served four yrs or over he was banned for life. the nature of the crime didn`t matter, I assume that after five yrs he would be able to apply for a certificate, to enable him to own the said firearm. Maybe this is where the nature of the crime comes in. I retired from the Prison service 7yrs ago so this may no longer be correct Malatone, I understand the difference and of course believe in innocent until proven guilty. Several arrests and remanded and 3 days in jail...to me that does not stand out as an obvious candidate for shotguns.Of course i know none of the facts/mitigation he can of course apply but on the bare bones presented my view remains 'I hope not'. I believe it is up to 3 years sentence then 5 years ban if 3 years or more a lifetime ban. atb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 If he has no convictions he will or should be judged on it.The firearms dept will be the judge if he gets granted or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Very unlikely he'll get it. A friend of mine got caught giving someone a slap in town while drinking and couple days later his FEO was at his door warning him if he carries on he'll take his guns.Once and you might be able to explain mitigating circumstances,but not multiple. You don't know that because you don't know the circumstances - none of us do. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr williamson Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 No offence but being arrested three times for violence related incidents, sound to me that hes a bit of a loose cannon. And these are (with all due respect) not the type of people we need in our sport. Its at risk enough as it is without the risk of your asociate blowing his lid. im not saying hed comit a crime with a gun but the violent streak is already there! no one with any violence related incident against them should be granted a sgc. And rightly so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 No offence but being arrested three times for violence related incidents, sound to me that hes a bit of a loose cannon. And these are (with all due respect) not the type of people we need in our sport. Its at risk enough as it is without the risk of your asociate blowing his lid. im not saying hed comit a crime with a gun but the violent streak is already there! no one with any violence related incident against them should be granted a sgc. And rightly so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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