solz Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 hey all, can anyone recommend some good cartridges to use in a semi auto (webely and scott 810) just brought the gun second hand and doesnt seem to like 67mm cartridges, when the first shot is fried is pushes out two shells and gets jams (this is with 67mm) works fine with 70mm looking for cartridges 30 - 34 grams shot size 5 -7 would be nice any advice would be great thx ps no replies along the lines of "get this semi as its the best ever" "dont buy cheap semis they always break" ect ..... thx solz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Gamebore Clear Pigeon. Latest black ones (i.e. not clear!) are 70mm. And choice of 30/32gms, plastic or fibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 The new ultra fast Kent Velocity 29gm fast ones would be worth a try too. I've got some in 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Make sure the oring is in place and good and the plastic piston is the right way round. Mine worked a treat with any cartridges. I still rate the 810 over my sx3 which is ****. Edited October 29, 2012 by Albert 888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Make sure the oring is in place and good and the plastic piston is the right way round. Mine worked a treat with any cartridges. im a bit confused on this, do you have any pictures you could show me of dissasemble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Unsrew forend cap remove forend then barrel slides out of the action. Then you have a stock action and magtube at the end should be a oring then a piston then under that a plastic piston follower which could be uside down then a spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 when i slide the barrel off the piston comes off with it (i think its the piston) its sort of a 2cm plastic bit of tube and looks like and o ring inside (it all come off with the barrel i cant seperate them? is this right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Uploaded with ImageShack.us this is my gun, where abouts is the o ring? am i right in thinking there is a heavy and light side to switch between loads? and which part is this? Edited October 29, 2012 by solz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Gamebore Clear Pigeon. Latest black ones (i.e. not clear!) are 70mm. And choice of 30/32gms, plastic or fibre. The new clear pigeon still use clear cases, they are plastic wad, the black ones are fiber wad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Eley hawk pigeon. they are specifically designed for semis as the brass is very short so as to not catch on things and move easier from the mag tube to chamber. It seems to work as i have noticed the opposite effects when using carts with really deep brass in my semi benelli . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Uploaded with ImageShack.us this is my gun, where abouts is the o ring? am i right in thinking there is a heavy and light side to switch between loads? and which part is this? The black part in the ring on your barrel is the piston it should pull out the oring is in front of it. do you also have a black plastic tube with rings around it.If yours takes 3.5" carts it could be different to mine.Sorry sold mine to mate so cant take a picture or send manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 ye the piston does not want to pull out, i can see the or ring inside it, put its sort of lodged in there, i can turn it aorund (cloackwise and anit clockwise) but i cant pull it out of the barrel, i dont have a black plastic tube with rings on it, what you see there is what i have, its a 3" chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I think you could have a part missing its the plasic tube with rings around it and its about 3" long,which you can turn around for different load carts.. The piston does apear to be stuck,it may be worth taking it to a gun smith for a real clean and service. As when clean the 810's work a real treat and always cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) hmm ok thanks for the advice, it works fine with 70mm carts, seems strange that there is a part missing, i will go back to the gun shop where i brought it from and have a chat to them. where abouts does this tube go? there doesnt seem to be space to fit another 3" of plastic anywhere, and the piston should not be stuck in? edit: do you know what the missing part is called? Edited October 29, 2012 by solz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 hmm ok thanks for the advice, it works fine with 70mm carts, seems strange that there is a part missing, i will go back to the gun shop where i brought it from and have a chat to them. where abouts does this tube go? there doesnt seem to be space to fit another 3" of plastic anywhere, and the piston should not be stuck in? edit: do you know what the missing part is called? hmm ok thanks for the advice, it works fine with 70mm carts, seems strange that there is a part missing, i will go back to the gun shop where i brought it from and have a chat to them. where abouts does this tube go? there doesnt seem to be space to fit another 3" of plastic anywhere, and the piston should not be stuck in? edit: do you know what the missing part is called? If you put webley and scott in google and search images a como one is stripped down and you can see the parts. It goes on the mag tube on top of the part that holds the spring the black part and under the piston.You will have space when bolt is pulled back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 thx, yes i see what you mean know, it does look like im missing that peace, just need to figure out the part number : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Try a new post mate sorry i coulnt be of more help.Could be called a piston follower,spacer,guide. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 ye might to, thx alot anyway been a huge help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu nesling Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 if you want to keep the shell cost down try rc2 28g 6's £45/slab plenty of pressure in them,eject 8 feet from my auto's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Have a look at the range of cartridges here: http://www.norgascartridges.co.uk The length of the cartridge is clearly shown in the charts. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 As above clear pigeon and for clays eley olympics work well in my semi ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Get a Beretta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Get a Beretta. no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 The new clear pigeon still use clear cases, they are plastic wad, the black ones are fiber wad. The black ones come in both plastic and fibre wads. I have purchased and used both. As the black cases are 70mm long they fit the bill as per the OPs question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman_l Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 The black ones come in both plastic and fibre wads. I have purchased and used both. As the black cases are 70mm long they fit the bill as per the OPs question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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