canis_lupus Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hi all I'm new to the forum. Wondered if anyone knows about Salukis? Bought him as a cross but he looks more saluki to me since a little internet research plus a look over him by my vet £30 later, he is about 18 months old and had no training as such till now. He is doing well, fits in with the family a treat, gets on well with my other dog who is a 15 year old staffy. Finding it a little harder to train this dog than any others I have had, (not had a sight hound before) mainly in the house training area, getting him not to pee or **** in the conservatory is a job at the moment, any ideas? He loves attention and has bonded with me egger to please, so I think I'm halfway there if anyone has advise for a new owner of a saluki or saluki cross would be grate to hear from you. Would like to take him rabbiting one day, once I have the recall sorted. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I may be showing my ignorance, but I thought that hunting with dogs was banned? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I may be showing my ignorance, but I thought that hunting with dogs was banned? webber Thanks for that Webber Didn’t know that, if that’s the case, guess that’s off the agenda, no worries just a thought. Any advice on training still appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Canis, LBand Yp are the ones to ask your sight hound questions to, I am sure that LB will be on a little later tonight. As for the training questions do a search through the Dogs section back to the beginning and you will find lots of info there. Welcome to the forum, NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Canis_lupus, congratulations on getting a Saluki hybrid My favourite longdog by far. They are in it for the long game not a 2 minute course and are the only dog worshipped by the travelling Arabs. In fact they were carried on the camels back rather than being than made to walk such was their worth. Lots of Saluki crosses-lurchers look like the real thing so it would be hard to say if yours is or not. I am guessing not as you would have done a monkey and upwards for a purebred unless you were really lucky at a dog home. Regarding getting him clean, get up 3 times a night and take him out and tell him 'do it' when he does give him lots of praise. It will take a long time but will be with him for life. Also make a point of praising him when he goes when you are out walking. Do not on any occasion get angry with his toilet, this will set you back months. I once had one that took nearly two months to get clean. You say he loves attention, has bonded with you and is eager to please in which case you have had a right result. Salukis are normally aloof and will bear you to be near them when they want not when you do. I would suggest that you spend all your time with him working on recall, reward with bits of bacon or cheese, keep him on the lead and don't take him rabbitting until he has a couple of years under his legs. I would take him out with the lamp often and have him on his backlegs when he spots the eyes in the light but resist the urge to let him go. If you need any help or advice PM me anytime. BTW hunting rabbits with a dog is not banned despite what you might hear Good luck LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 canis_lupus, What LB said about the stamina of the Saluki is rather understated. They are the canine version of a long distance runner; only they run flat out all the time. However, when it comes to training, they are somewhat lacking in that department. IMHO the day you start training the dog do the same regime with a brick and in six months the brick will be far more obedient than the dog. Tiercel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 but as it`s likely a cross it should show good and bad from it`s roots........hopefully more good than bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks for the advice LB I can see he is going to need the right type of training, unique to this type of dog and could do with advice, so I will take you up on your offer and PM you from time to time if that is ok. Many thanks PM on its way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 There has been a lot of rubbish written about salukis and saluki Xs being untrainable and stupid , most of it by one man who wrote a lot of fieldsports books,and he brain washed a lot of people . well i've seen plenty that were as well trained and as inteligent as any other type of lurcher, so don't let any one put you off canis ,you make him your mate ,and put as much into the dog as you can , and then you will be repaid,it might not be easy with an older dog ,and it will take time ,IT DOES WITH ANY BREED! All the very best to you Mick. PS stick a pic up of the dog if you can ,so we can all give an oppinion if its a Xs or pure Saluki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks for that Mick I agree with you, I think he will do well,given time. Yes I will post a picture Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Fenlander. I am not talking from a book but through experience. There are a few points that you might like to remember. Salukis were bred to course; any dog that would not stick with its prey was discarded. They have been bred that way for centuries. If you want a dog that will stick to a Hare and run until it will drop then a Saluki is the dog. However, if you want a dog with some semblance of intelligence then forget a Saluki, or any other sight hound if it comes to that. You state that "well i’ve seen plenty that were as well trained and as inteligent as any other type of lurcher" I do not disagree with you, but if it is a "lurcher" that means that it has blood other than sight hound running through it's veins. And it is that blood that is giving the dog its intelligence. I am not knocking Saluki's here just stating facts. A sight hound by its very nature is not a candidate for Crufts obedience trials. Where as a lot of lurchers are, and those include some Saluki x's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Fenlander. I am not talking from a book but through experience. There are a few points that you might like to remember. Salukis were bred to course; any dog that would not stick with its prey was discarded. They have been bred that way for centuries. If you want a dog that will stick to a Hare and run until it will drop then a Saluki is the dog. However, if you want a dog with some semblance of intelligence then forget a Saluki, or any other sight hound if it comes to that. You state that "well i’ve seen plenty that were as well trained and as inteligent as any other type of lurcher" I do not disagree with you, but if it is a "lurcher" that means that it has blood other than sight hound running through it's veins. And it is that blood that is giving the dog its intelligence. I am not knocking Saluki's here just stating facts. A sight hound by its very nature is not a candidate for Crufts obedience trials. Where as a lot of lurchers are, and those include some Saluki x's. Hi Tiercel I am no expert I admit that but the dog has been coming on in leaps and bounds and if I was going to be honest it is properly me who is holding him back. I don’t know if he is a saluki throw and throw, I will post a picture for all to see. The dog is intelligent, any person can see that but he needs to be channelled and as you said one of those areas is to run and run like the wind he does. I am genuinely interested in all constructive input. Canis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Tiercel just so you know were i'm coming from,let me just say my post was intended to offer encoragement to canis-lupus,who was looking for help with his first running dog,Not to get into an argument over the merits of salukis ,lurchers or longdogs with You. But as you felt the need to address me ,and quote from my post it seems only right I reply to you. you say you arnt knocking salukis but stating facts? I think you mean you are giving your oppinion! I am very well aware of what Salukis were and still are bred for ,and what they can and can't do. Is it realy your oppinion that a saluki after SIX months training would be less obiedient than a brick?,and that ALL sighthounds have no semblance of intelligence? because if this is your EXPERIENCE I would suggest this says more about you than the dogs. now I dont intend to highjack canis lupus thread so I wont be entering into a this dog is better than that dog argument. Keep at the training canis ,and if you have a problem just ask for help,as there are plenty of people willing to offer help and encoragement. I'm looking forward to seeing a photo of your Saluki ?? all the best Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 hi Took a few photos today before battery went down, will post a picture by tomorrow when charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 canis_lupus, What LB said about the stamina of the Saluki is rather understated. They are the canine version of a long distance runner; only they run flat out all the time. However, when it comes to training, they are somewhat lacking in that department. IMHO the day you start training the dog do the same regime with a brick and in six months the brick will be far more obedient than the dog. Tiercel Oops, forget to mention that the Saluki portion of your kook can run for hours, and hours and........... Don't get caught in the fashion of Saluki slating mate LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hi all been trying to post photo but I'm getting an error message atchment to big will keep trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 sent you a PM canis_ lupus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted September 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 I think I have this right with a little help from fenlander, if it don't work it's me. here is a link for a picture of my saluki or cross saluki. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/cani...et/STA60006.jpg If anyone trys the link let me know if it works. cheers canis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenlander Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 it works canis and in my oppinion you have a pure bred Saluki,and at the price you paid it was a bargain, give it some road work and plenty of good food ,keep up the training ,and you will have a hell of a rabbit catcher on your hands there!!!!!!!!!! all the best you lucky ****** Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 That looks like a pure bred Saluki to me as well . Good luck with the training , and remember , don't give the dog a ####ing , as he will get the hump for hours . Or even days . This comes from knowlage gained in the keeping of the Lemmy , who can be moody for days . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canis_lupus Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Thanks for the coments, The dog is doing well only problem is, I'm sure my little staffys legs are getting shorter since we've had him due to the longer walks Canis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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