mpk Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Looking at possibly running my 3.1 TD Vauxhall montery (Isuzu trooper) on it. I have heard mixed reviews and I am hoping a learned pigeon watcher has been using it long term. I have a stockist near by. Anyone had any experience ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 A guy pulled me out of a muddy hole in his series landrover. He run it on chip oil mixed with hydraulic oil. Another mate runs his on chip oil but carries a spare fuel filter round with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Bio diesel should not be confused with WVO (waste veg oil) Bio diesel is a treated form of veg oil, and is available to buy at pumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 The thing that worrys me is the fuel lines and seals around the fuel pump etc. Although not a problem for me to change its just extra work !. It will be bio diesel from a local supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 The bloke who mixes hydraulic oil and chip oil dosent filter it and tips scraps and all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 wouldnt touch it for my vehicle...i think it was responsible for rotting my diaphram in my injector pump, which caused the enjine to run away....i think more modern vehicles are ok as the seals are of a different manufacture....my mate who is a boiler enjineer swears that biodesiel is to blame on rotting pump seals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hi bud. My mates running his 3.1 trooper on a mix of used engine oil and naughty diesel fine. And has done over 15k on the stuff. smokes like a good en tho! So I'm sure if he can run it on slurry bio diesel will be fine :-) they'll run on anything lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 The bloke who mixes hydraulic oil and chip oil dosent filter it and tips scraps and all in. There is no way on earth this would let even the most basic diesel run for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I think I may have a go with it. I have looked on another forum and it seems a few have benn doing it to good affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Well it dose alex. Your a very negative person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Come on bits of chips moisture and that's the start of the problems, it would just bung filters up it can be done but not like that. The op will be fine it sounds like proper bio diesel, particularly this time of year you do have to be cautious bung in raw veg oil and you won't be going anywhere. If you don't do it properly it kills diesel pumps and they are far from cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Come on bits of chips moisture and that's the start of the problems, it would just bung filters up it can be done but not like that. The op will be fine it sounds like proper bio diesel, particularly this time of year you do have to be cautious bung in raw veg oil and you won't be going anywhere. If you don't do it properly it kills diesel pumps and they are far from cheap Agree on all of the above, the biggest problems being the chunks blocking filters and the amount of water in the oil. Even if you use WVO as fuel, you always heat it to drive off the water and filter it down to 1 micron before even thinking of putting it anywhere near the tank! I speak from experience! This time of year it needs to be cut with diesel or petrol as the low temps make it thicken too much and in extreme cases it virtually solidifies. I ran a Pajero on it for over a year, and a further two years on biodiesel. So, to get to the OP's original question. There are some engines that just don't like B100. A search across the bio forums will soon tell you but I'm pretty sure the 3.1 Isuzu diesel is good on B100. You may initially suffer from clogging fuel filters, bio tends to break up some of the crud deposited by mineral diesel, these naturally end up in the fiter. Carry a spare and the tools to change it for the first 1000 miles, although mine was running clean after 400 miles. Other than that it was no different to running on mineral. Slightly lower MPG, but thats far outweighed by the cost saving. I had no issues with any pump or seal deterioration. Edited December 8, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Proper bio (not veg oil) is supposed to be OK for most things - it's even mixed into regular pump diesel these days. I'm not keen on the stuff, but it should normally be OK when it comes from somewhere who makes and filters it properly. A guy pulled me out of a muddy hole in his series landrover. He run it on chip oil mixed with hydraulic oil. Another mate runs his on chip oil but carries a spare fuel filter round with him. The bloke who mixes hydraulic oil and chip oil dosent filter it and tips scraps and all in. Well it dose alex. Your a very negative person. He may not be running the original engine, but if he is using the original 2/2 1/4 with the CAV rotary pump, he's heading towards an expensive failure. There is a bearing in these pumps which doesn't get lubricated properly using oil instead of diesel, it eventually seizes up. This quickly removes any saving by avoiding the tax on diesel! Also if he can't be bothered to filter it then he will end up with a fuel tank full of bits and sludge, he will end up with a fuel filter full of bits and sludge, and there is a good chance that his fuel lines will end up clogged with a chip or similar. He'll have fun unblocking that at the side of the road... Edited December 8, 2012 by bedwards1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I don't think it is the original engine. But what I have said is 100% true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Many thanks for all your comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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