gunners Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hi there i have just aquired some Vectan AS with a Lee Loadall and was wondering whether anyone has some reloading advice as i have also got some No 7 shot. Please also does anyone have the bush sizing chart also? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 _Hi gunners, Is that for 20cal, 12cal.... what component have you got already? cheers, franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanky Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunners Posted December 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 It is for 12 G, I have some Vectan AS and No 7 shot at this point in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) In 12gauge 21grains of AS seems good for anything from 24grams to 30grams of shot, plastic or fibre. Edited December 17, 2012 by sitsinhedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgun Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Meanwhile, I have seen a 32g recipe somewhere here. I suppose it was 21 grain AS, plastic case, wad etc. Its pressure was 610 bar(I suppose). But, http://www.nobelsport.it/public/pages/ENG/schedapol.asp?ProdottoID=557&FamigliaID=0 according to this 28g NSI recipe, breech pressure is over than it. I cannot understand. BTW, are there any gentleman who send PM to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Meanwhile, I have seen a 32g recipe somewhere here. I suppose it was 21 grain AS, plastic case, wad etc. Its pressure was 610 bar(I suppose). But, http://www.nobelspor...57&FamigliaID=0 according to this 28g NSI recipe, breech pressure is over than it. I cannot understand. BTW, are there any gentleman who send PM to me. If you want 32grams of shot you're better going to A1 rather than try to push the AS envelope too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgun Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Obviously. AS is not perfect for 32 g, just an alternative. By the way, just wondering if that recipe is really safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecman Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 vectan a.s is good for 24 28 grains if you are loading 30 32 you need to use vectan a1 get some powder scales because no two loaders will throw the same powder it depends how your loader is set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 i use a lee loadall and you can"t go by the bushings with as powder as they don"t throw the ammout that you think its trail an error drop powder and weigh it changing bushings to find which you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 vectan a.s is good for 24 28 grains if you are loading 30 32 you need to use vectan a1 get some powder scales because no two loaders will throw the same powder it depends how your loader is set up. You better change that to grams of lead before someone blows themselves up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag357 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Been using Vectan AS now for several years and load 28 grams of #6 and #7.5 shot with 21.6 grains of AS, patterns well and chronos at 1150 ft/s. I use 70mm hulls with UEE primers. All my loading done with home made shot and Ponsness Warren progressive loader. Buy all components in bulk with several mates and this keeps the cost down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecman Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 You better change that to grams of lead before someone blows themselves up. sorry chaps sits is right it should read grams of lead not grains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 i`d try to avoid at all cost using AS for 24g loads. looking at some of the data, it really needs a good charge of powder. 24grains if i remember, that is a silly large charge and is very expensive... at approx 6-7p a charge in powder for that, it is really expensive. especially for a saving over 4kg of lead over 1000 shells, compared to 28gram loads. even a faster powder saves 1-1.2p per cartridge, thats £12 / k just by changing the powder. as for using it for 21g loads. i`d advise not to in a 12gauge. cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langlands Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 What powder would you suggest for 21grams lead? (Preferably from the lines of the european powders such as Vectan or Maxam as they are half the price of the American stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 21g powders would be very fast, maxam powders such as csb6,etc. the load data is there. i`ve proofed a 24g load, that you probbly could just dump in 21g and it`ll be ok. i`ve used my skeet special charge bar that drops 22grams of #6 lead, that i use in the 24g recipe. shouldnt be a problem, problems with vectan AS and 21gram loads is pressure. those little loads need a fast powder, faster than red dot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I loaded quite a lot of 24gram loads with 21grains of Vectan AS and they shot very well. Cycled my auto nicely too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 21g powders would be very fast, maxam powders such as csb6,etc. the load data is there. i`ve proofed a 24g load, that you probbly could just dump in 21g and it`ll be ok. i`ve used my skeet special charge bar that drops 22grams of #6 lead, that i use in the 24g recipe. shouldnt be a problem, problems with vectan AS and 21gram loads is pressure. those little loads need a fast powder, faster than red dot too. True. It is NobelSport LOW SONIC powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 True. It is NobelSport LOW SONIC powder. yes ! shame this isnt more readily available, would have been my first choice. larger flake good for volumetric applications. my small grain powder i use, is very low volume, so either needs taller wads or smaller cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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