chady Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Hi I have a gun And dont know what make it is!! Can you have a look and if you reconise it or know any thing can you let me know?? Theres know markins on it!! Thank you. 017 by Chady9, on Flickr 013 by Chady9, on Flickr Edited January 4, 2013 by chady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Close ups of the action and proof marks will help. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16jus Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Looks lovely, cant help with your questions though sorry Whats the red bit on the end of the barrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 There just little barrel end caps the old boy had them on all his guns. Don't know why lol. I have got to put it up for sale in the next couple of weeks so just trying to get as much info and a rough idear on value as I can Thanks Jamie Thanks figgy I will get some tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbrian shooter Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 As said proof marks will help indicate age and where it was proofed, although the age may be sketchy as some proof marks can spread over decades! Send your photos of the gun and all its markings to david baker of sporting gun magazine! Iv read alot of his articles and he seems to know alot! Worth a try Atb c.s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Diggory haddock is another old gun expert but without much better photos and detail of action, mechanism, barrel flats etc unlikely to be able to say more than "looks like an XYZ style action" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks folks I really appreciate all your help I will get photos of marks up this morning thank you all I have been on a lot of forums with all my hobbies over the years and this is far the best and most helpfully one Thanks Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hi do these help?? dont mean a lot to me.... so hopefuly going to learn some thing from this. Thanks Jamie IMG_0084 by Chady9, on Flickr IMG_0085 by Chady9, on Flickr IMG_0086 by Chady9, on Flickr IMG_0087 by Chady9, on Flickr IMG_0088 by Chady9, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 To me looks like birmingham proof, view mark 1813-1904, cant see a clear BP or NP with crown above there is what looks luike BP which is black powder there should be chamber legth as well and near the base of the RH barrel looking at the flats 2 characters either 8.P or S.P ? and an "S" or "8" on the rib underside http://www.flickr.com/photos/91494793@N03/8349661635/lightbox/ IT also has the 12 C in a diamond this makes me think it was london proof and possible Birmingham reproofed this would explain the crossed swords and additional marks or that the barrels and action do not match. Does it have a serial number? do they match? There are some other pics of another SxS with more disticnt proof marks. a 10x jewelers eye glass will help as these marks are not easy to photograph without a macro lens http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jewellers-Jewellery-Antiques-Magnifier-Hallmark/dp/B00481MIKM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357412969&sr=8-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks mate very helpfull No it dose not have a serial no even on the old boys cert it had unknown on the serial no section so you are probably right What do you think this gun is worth?? Thanks for your time Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I have no idea on value what are the bores like? if the bore are clean its a very nice looking side lever hammer gun with damascus barrels if bore are poor with no name probably not alot. Needs looking at by someone with more idea email of the close ups and overall gun to diggory haddock and david baker just incase they see somethign that might give it precedence no serial number is interesting....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 nice gun you've got there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yea I know about the serial no!! Have you there e mail address?? Please And thx red beard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 well try http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/about/contact and http://www.vintageguns.co.uk/contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks much appreciated Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) give your local holts rep a bell for a free rough estimation, there's no need to put it to auction worth a try at least you get a rough idea Edited January 5, 2013 by ROBLATCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 From what I can see, I think it may be proofed for black powder only, which would lessen the value, though the side lever is a nice feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 What's black powder? Sorry relatively new to shooting Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) black powder is the "gun powder" modern guns use nitro powder before nitro was invented it was black powder (the stuff used in muskets that gives lots of white smoke) You really need to know this stuff and to read the proof marks.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder Never use a nitro load in a BP only gun it can ruin the gun and take your fingers/hand/face with it! http://www.durham.police.uk/info/firearms/proof/memorandum.php Edited January 5, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldivalloch Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 It's an interesting looking gun. Something that strikes me, from looking at the photographs, is that the positioning of the lever on the left side of the action suggests a gun built to suit a left-handed-shooter. Chady, is the stock cast on or off? Anyone got any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Thanks HDAV I'm going to have another look and see if I can see a bp or np stamp How do you tell what cast it is? Just look down it and see what way it slightly bends?? As far as I'm aware norm was right hand but might not mean its not a left hand gun Thanks Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 yes put the butt on the floor with the underside facing away from you, (chambers empty) and closed look down the underside of the barrels and see which way the stock bends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Thx ill have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 if with gun between your legs stock between feet and triggers point the smae way as your toes the stock bends to left foot it for left hander (cxast on?) to right its for a right hander (cast off ?) can never remember on/off orientation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkboy84 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 It's an interesting looking gun. Something that strikes me, from looking at the photographs, is that the positioning of the lever on the left side of the action suggests a gun built to suit a left-handed-shooter. Chady, is the stock cast on or off? Anyone got any thoughts on this? Surely if the leaver was on the right side of the action it would interfere with a right handers trigger finger? As naturally the thumb which operates the lever would be on the left side of the action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.