colin lad Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 after reading a thread on hear a year or 2 ago about permission slips and if they are needed the general feeling was that permission by word and mouth was fine so when i gained a new permission i phoned feo to check it was cleared for caliber i intended to use, during phone call i asked about permission slip and was told so long as land is cleared and you have permission thats fine, after a conversation with a mate today he said he has spoken to our feo who is now saying before you go on land you must have signed slip and register it with feo as word and mouth permission is no longer ok so has this all changed now or is this just another one of those feo's making their own rules?? thoughts please area is Beds and Herts colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 every permission i get,i have to inform my feo,and it gets logged on my file Colin(thats a slip in writing,given to feo).........DAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 We got pulled a few months back lamping at half one in the morning we did'nt have permission slips but we did have permission and the fuzz called the land owner in the middle of the night. so all in all its probably better to get a farmer to sign a slip than make an angry one whos woke up in his beauty sleep- luckily he is a nice chap and did not mind to much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 According to humberside no land is attached to your file. Aslong as the farmer will back you up your fine. We got pulled a few months back lamping at half one in the morning we did'nt have permission slips but we did have permission and the fuzz called the land owner in the middle of the night. so all in all its probably better to get a farmer to sign a slip than make an angry one whos woke up in his beauty sleep- luckily he is a nice chap and did not mind to much Now that i would of kicked off about. Its nothing that carnt wait till morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Permission slips are up to the shooter and land owner and are not required and have no legal standing all my permissions are sealed with a "gentlemans handshake" if I were to ask they would be deeply offended. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 According to humberside no land is attached to your file. Aslong as the farmer will back you up your fine. Now that i would of kicked off about. Its nothing that carnt wait till morning. it is abit off really, some people saw up shoot 3 foxes in the same field and thought it was illegal. would of been a good night it if wasn't for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 i was not 100% sure but didn't think there was a law saying you had to have a signed slip guess the local feo are putting some of their own rules in colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee. Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I always have the landowner sign a permission slip / liability disclaimer (absolving them in case I get injured whilst on their property) when I obtain permission, one copy for them and one copy for me), Most farmers remark on this as it shows a responsible shooter, plus it puts their mind at easy that your not going to sue the **** out of them. This is then scanned and forwarded to the firearms dept and I keep the original filed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 i shoot on over 20 farms,and have none on paper,just a quick call to check its ok on the day/night,and im away. on renewal of fac /sg i get one of the farms to sign forms to ok it and thats about it. prob depends on force area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunneravi Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 We got pulled a few months back lamping at half one in the morning we did'nt have permission slips but we did have permission and the fuzz called the land owner in the middle of the night. so all in all its probably better to get a farmer to sign a slip than make an angry one whos woke up in his beauty sleep- luckily he is a nice chap and did not mind to much That's crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 thats exactly right mate......depends on force area................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hi all. I had my fac interview last night. One od questions FEO asked me was, "Can you take your HMR/LR and use it with a friend on there permission?" I answered yes as that's what i believed. She told me in no uncertain terms that's no due to fact i will be issued a closed licence i cannot ho anywhere i do not have formal registered permission on. ie a slip. Wow this is such a grey area!!! Mungo lee spoken them as well today he be up in min too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 although my mate doesnt have the permission,he comes to shoot as my guest,which it states on my perm slip.....myself and guest,this covers him to shoot there with me........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Permission slips are up to the shooter and land owner and are not required and have no legal standing all my permissions are sealed with a "gentlemans handshake" if I were to ask they would be deeply offended. Alan Thinking the forum needs a like post , a lot of farmers see filling out forms as a chore and if there words not good enough then **** off Edited January 8, 2013 by magman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Well I think she's talking ********, If the land is cleared and you have permission then you can shoot there. The only written permission required is the first one that you send in on application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) although my mate doesnt have the permission,he comes to shoot as my guest,which it states on my perm slip.....myself and guest,this covers him to shoot there with me........ this came about as my mate lee comes with me and Baz on the farm where i work the farmer knows i take people out with me and is fine with that i dont have permission slip as i work for them and he would laugh if i suggested i need one, when lee spoke to feo they said that he could not come with me and use his hmr but had to use mine as he dont have perm slip though coming with me with the consent of farmer surly thats is permission in itself :hmm: colin Edited January 8, 2013 by colin lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 you would think so mate,but as has already been said before,all depends on force area,they all seem to differ one way or another.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungolee Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I phoned the feo today and they said that under no circumstances was I allowed to use MY hmr on land that I had not got written permission on. Even being escorted by colinlad on his works ground which is cleared upto .243. I could use his hmr under supervision until I got a signed form from the land owner to use my own . They even sent me an updated permission slip to be signed by the land owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yes i can Colin i have my own permission slip Hahaha. I can see a email to BASC coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yes i can Colin i have my own permission slip Hahaha. I can see a email to BASC coming... who mentioned your name i know you do mate colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I always have the landowner sign a permission slip / liability disclaimer (absolving them in case I get injured whilst on their property) when I obtain permission, one copy for them and one copy for me), Most farmers remark on this as it shows a responsible shooter, plus it puts their mind at easy that your not going to sue the **** out of them. This is then scanned and forwarded to the firearms dept and I keep the original filed. This is exactly what i do. All laminated and like you say one to farmer, one for yourself and one to the Firearms Dept. ATB, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimh Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 mine hang from my sun visor in view, I also have my BASC and first page FAC in view with a polite message and whistle to blow for me to return to the vehicle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 who mentioned your name i know you do mate colin Having re read your post sir, the answer to your question is, definitely not you. My apologies bud. Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Having re read your post sir, the answer to your question is, definitely not you. My apologies bud. Xx lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 When I got my FAC all the farms I shoot for had encouraged me to to go for it, all I did was in my application provide a list of intended farms and land to shoot on with the relevent names and phone numbers, regardless of any bits of paper with written consent the police are duty bound to contact the the farms owners, tenants or agents to confirm I had indeed got permission and the land was suitable, simples. Even if your FAC was open and you had a permission slip, if you were not known to that officer or officers he or they would still have to confirm you had the authority to shoot which would mean contacting the farmer tenant or agent anyway. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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