Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I shot with a semi auto for years and then left them alone for about a decade. In a bout of nostalga I bought another auto a few months ago for my fowling but I am now regretting it. I can shoot with it quite well but It is long and unwieldy and most all it takes too long to clean. I am thinking of trading it in for an o/u suitable for 3 or 3.5 inch steel. I generally dont get on with Berettas too well and prefer Mirokus but I dont have enough cash to change to a Miroku. I was once told that lanbers have similar stock dimensions to berettas and I suppose I am looking for a similar equivalent to Mirokus. Can anyone recommend a cheaper o/u suitable for fowling with similar stock dimensions to Mirokus. All replies will be appreciated. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) 3 1/2" chambered browning waterfowl would be ideal then.................... http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/browning_425_special_waterfowl1/ http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Browning_Shotgun_Waterfowl_For-Sale_121207103917001 http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun/Browning-425-Waterfowl-gun-for-sale-gs75411.aspx Browning and Miroku come from same factory...... Edited January 13, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 what sort of auto is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 3 1/2" chambered browning waterfowl would be ideal then.................... Perfect but too pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 winchester 101 waterfowl???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) well at £895 is going rate for a 525/MK38 of good spec.... http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun/Browning-Waterfowl-gun-for-sale-gs106278.aspx Edited January 13, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 what sort of auto is it? Beretta xtrema winchester 101 waterfowl???? Now your talking my language !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 have a real nice 6500 sporter but it`s only 2+ 3/4 chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) 3 1/2" chambered browning waterfowl would be ideal then.................... http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/browning_425_special_waterfowl1/ http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Browning_Shotgun_Waterfowl_For-Sale_121207103917001 http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun/Browning-425-Waterfowl-gun-for-sale-gs75411.aspx Browning and Miroku come from same factory...... Those are beautiful guns - they are a bit more than I want to spend but I suppose I could sell another gun too ...... have a real nice 6500 sporter but it`s only 2+ 3/4 chamber Thanks. Id really need a 3 inch steel proofed gun. Is the Winchester waterfowl proofed for 3 inch steel? I know it has 3 inch chambers but is it a little old for steel proof? Edited January 13, 2013 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 http://www.bisley-uk.com/product.php?i=LIWPA&c=13 Lincoln 3 1/2" OU.... do you need 3 1/2" or will 3" do? 3" steel proof is easier, 425/525/Mk38/Select http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Winchester_Shotgun_waterfowl_For-Sale_110815101428001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Winchester_Shotgun_Select-Sporting-2_For-Sale_111003132016001 http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun/Winchester-5000-WATERFOWL-gun-for-sale-gs90646.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) http://www.bisley-uk.com/product.php?i=LIWPA&c=13 Lincoln 3 1/2" OU.... do you need 3 1/2" or will 3" do? 3" steel proof is easier, 425/525/Mk38/Select http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Winchester_Shotgun_waterfowl_For-Sale_110815101428001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Winchester_Shotgun_Select-Sporting-2_For-Sale_111003132016001 http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun/Winchester-5000-WATERFOWL-gun-for-sale-gs90646.aspx 3 inch steel is fine as most of my fowling for duck. Any goose shooting is over fields and we can still use 3 inch lead for that over here. I was looking at those Winchesters on guntrader too - Were they built for the US market? I only ask as if they were I am pretty sure they are safe for 3 inch steel. Edited January 13, 2013 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 not sure on the chamber size to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Nikko or Winchester 101 A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Nikko or Winchester 101 A Nikko is a new one to me. Worth a look. Thanks. not sure on the chamber size to be honest They do have 3 inch chambers but dont know if proofed for 3 inch lead or 3 inch steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Have you tried the o/u webly and scotts,lanber,betonsoli. I shoot with a browning and have shoot with a miroku. And can also shoot with the other 3 I have mentioned. Also think most of the newer cheaper guns as mentioned are 3" steel proof. Lowlander-highlanders are a simular fit but dont know much about them but one you can get in 3 1/2". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Nikko have not been made for many years (70s) but a good quality gun, Japanese and very very similar to Miroku in performance and cost at the time. Mate of mine has one for his pheasants, farmer, NEVER cleans it, and it keeps clonking 1 for 2 down every year. A Edited January 13, 2013 by Alycidon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Have you tried the o/u webly and scotts,lanber,betonsoli. I shoot with a browning and have shoot with a miroku. And can also shoot with the other 3 I have mentioned. Also think most of the newer cheaper guns as mentioned are 3" steel proof. Lowlander-highlanders are a simular fit but dont know much about them but one you can get in 3 1/2". Thanks for the reply. There is a 3.5 inch version of the Lowlander. I have owned Lanbers and Bettinsolis and could make them work but not as well as Miroku and Winchester. Nikko have not been made for many years (70s) but a good quality gun, Japanese and very very similar to Miroku in performance and cost at the time. Mate of mine has one for his pheasants, farmer, NEVER cleans it, and it keeps clonking 1 for 2 down every year. A I had a look on Guntrader - lovely looking guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Thanks for the reply. There is a 3.5 inch version of the Lowlander. I have owned Lanbers and Bettinsolis and could make them work but not as well as Miroku and Winchester. I had a look on Guntrader - lovely looking guns. Im in a similar position,shoot very well in a normal environment with my browning,shoot poor with my auto on the marsh.at first blameevit on tue auto but I have narrowed it down to never geting comfortable. So I cant blame the gun just myself. Im sticking with the auto as I can shoot 'as good with it as the browning on the clays. Good luck in your quest. Try / handle a webly and Scott out didnt find them much different than browning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Im in a similar position,shoot very well in a normal environment with my browning,shoot poor with my auto on the marsh.at first blameevit on tue auto but I have narrowed it down to never geting comfortable. So I cant blame the gun just myself. Im sticking with the auto as I can shoot 'as good with it as the browning on the clays. Good luck in your quest. Try / handle a webly and Scott out didnt find them much different than browning. Thanks. I do shoot quite well with the auto (I shot a treble at wigeon in November)- but I have made it fit by chopping up an old brand loyalty card and shoving it in as well as the shims. I just dont think Im an automatic person anymore.I somehow feel that a semi auto will wear out and have problems develop quicker than an o/u. I could be totally wrong too ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Just buy one you like and have it fitted to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Just buy one you like and have it fitted to you Yep. Tried this in the past too. Its all about proximity to good stockers - they are like hen's teeth here. I have tried this with a number of local stockers here ( and even once sent a stock to England) and has always ended up with a me having a "so so" fit. I end up trading it in and taking a big hit on value as the rfd tells me the stocker has ruined the stock and they'll have to fit a new one before they sell it. (I know they do no such thing) I therefore dont bother with having guns fitted after I buy them. I try to buy ones that fit in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 is there not a chap about banbridge does stock work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 is there not a chap about banbridge does stock work?? Is it Tom McClimond you mean? He has stopped doing stock work for 5 or 6 years now. He was meant to be a good stocker but I never new about him at the time he was doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 not sure,another chap round garvagh does it too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3728 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I have a winchester select 2, which takes 3" cartridges and is steel proffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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