contrysports Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 hi all was out fowling tonight and my gun jammed after having a shot the bolt wont pull back and eject the cartridge. anyone know how to remove to empty cartridge safely? any tips much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Strip it down ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Strip it down ?? tried it then tried to pull the barrel away and the barrel won't leave the bolt enough to get to it. cheers anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 What gun are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 its an armed a turkish gun but it say izarm on the stock so it will be similar to any of the turkish guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Semi auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 yes its an autp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 If you can pull the bolt back at all you can try removing the bolt and sliding barrel and action out together if not try removing the trigger housing, assuming its as easy to strip as a hatsan, that might help. If not maybe some pics might help. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Is this a loaded round or fired!!!! If unfired you must shoot it off first!! If a gasser you may need to remove the stock if that is where the bolt return spring lives! It is possible that the bolt spring and guide is the cause of the jam. If a long recoiler put the muzzle down on a soft surface and with your weight press the whole gun down to cycle the action. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) I expect that from the title, the cartridge is fired. I had this problem with my Browning, not sure what caused it. Rubber mallet with considered force to the bolt handle unlocked the bolt and it's been fine ever since. Edited January 30, 2013 by cant hit rabbits 123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plank06 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Had the same a while back, cartridge was very tight in. 1 in a million I think, I held the extractor claw open then took the barrel off, then just gently pushed cartridge out with a screwdriver on the rim, fine ever since!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Maybe press the extractor down with a screw driver if you can see it like the sx3 and give it a good wack on handle or put a rod up barrel in to the shell of spent cartridge and bang on floor ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) I hope there isn`t another round up the spout, meaning the possibility of it being ejected and another round chambering, with the effect of the Firing pin being FORWARD and discharging: Oh Lor: If There are rounds in there, get them out, put something in the chamber to stop it loading , it could have serious consequences otherwise, point it either at the floor or up in the air while messing, obviously get the UNFIRED Rounds OUT:: And NOT in the house: Edited January 30, 2013 by subsonicnat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 i wouldnt be hitting the extractor with a mallet or using a screw driver around the rim if case is empty and gun is unloaded why not use a cleaning rod to assist the opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Clear the mag tube and count the rounds, real dicey to be messing with if its a live one up there so stay safe and assume nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Trigger group out first, live or not the hammer is usually in the trigger group, removing it should make the job a lot safer, however treat as if loaded all the time. Once out check the bolt lock is dropping down and is not jammed with debris, it's the bit that slides back and fourth and moves up to lock in the bolt when you work the lever, after that check the rod that works from the piston is located correctly and not jamming the bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 i wouldnt be hitting the extractor with a mallet or using a screw driver around the rim if case is empty and gun is unloaded why not use a cleaning rod to assist the opening? Because if the bolt is locked (which it would be if its in the forward position) a cleaning rod would not help. If you could force the bolt back with a cleaning rod down the barrel, whats stopping the bolt flying open far too quickly and under massive pressure, causing serious harm to the user? Bolt assemblies are usually two part, the part the is gripping the cartridge and the carrier. When the gun fires, the carrier moves first which unlocks the upper section from the barrel and allows both parts to move to the rear. To move the carrier without firing a live round, you must operate the bolt handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 So,,,, is every one still alive? U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Have you sorted it? Or would you like some pics which could help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 yeah i got it thanks for all the help! and i am still alive and kicking! i removed the unfired cases the got a cleaning rod down the muzzle and forces the bolt down with that while pulling it with my other hand. the problem was the fireing pin had been knocked up so about 5mm was out of the brass and that was catching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 glad you got it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 To move the carrier without firing a live round, you must operate the bolt handle. With a Mallet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 With a Mallet!!! You don't have to be giving a a mighty walloping, just a tap with something of more substance than your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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