dipper Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I have a 8 month springer when i take him out he work well but he ranges too far ie 300 yards. How do i get him to work within gunshot say 30 yards.He runs out but returns every few minutes .Hes a very bold fast pup. Dipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Master the stop command....? Can you stop him, turn him, recall him with ease? I wouldn't let mine get that far away, but at 8 months I'm concentrating on basic starts, stops, recalls and a bit of retrieving with my cocker. There's plenty of time to hunt when they've mastered the basics, so re-gain control while he's still young (and you still can!). Once my cocker responds to my every command in as many scenarios I can create, and I have ultimate control over where she goes and what she does, I'll introduce her to hunting more. It sounds like you're letting him do too much of what he wants, and too early, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 At a guess you have let it do what it wants, start again and do the basics and get the stop/recall sorted before you let it start hunting again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) As said, get the basics well drilled in first. You want the dog hunting 10-15yrds either side and about 10yrds in front, not 30. If he goes to far, recall him and cast him off again. But that goes back to the first point, is he 100% on the recall..... Edited February 10, 2013 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 When your out for a walk, don't walk in a straight line. Don't take a circular route. the reason being the dog gains confidence in knowing where you are and where you will be so doesn't have to keep tabs on you. Go for a walk but zig zag when the dog is 10 yds one way turn and walk away, giving a little pip on your whistle, and keep doing this. Make it the dogs responsibility to keep tabs on where you are, not the other way round. When I first started walking my springer pup if you'd had a tracker on me it would have looked like a kid had scribbled all over a map. This is best done when they are younger as they are less adventurous and a little more clingy but should hopefully still redress the balance of power. Bear in mind it doesn't matter how far you go on your walk, its not about covering a set distance its about being out for a period of time, the dog will still get the exercise just likely in a smaller area. Also use your voice, when the dog is at the outer limit of your acceptable range call him harshly FIDO, the second he turns towards you soften your voice fido, fido, fido, in doing so the dog learns that its a nice place to be within range, but that too far away he gets shouted at. As he learns this lesson there will be times when he ignores you, and you will have to get after him. You might want to keep him closer than 30yds many advocate 20yds as a maximum as any birds flushed will be out of range by the time you've got the gun up. Train him at 12 yds as once he's on game that distance will naturally stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Do you really mean 300 yards at 8 months? I fear the ship may have sailed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee-kinsman Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) 300 yds? I didn't think there was land flat enough round bolton to measure 300yds. Edited February 12, 2013 by lee-kinsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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