JonathanL Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Give it a rest JL the thread has gone on long enough now & IF you need a new liver or some other spare part put an ad on the net some where maybe face book ? & the family of some poor soul might see it & offer you one . But this thread is dead & going nowhere Regards & good luck Pole Star. More insightful and incisive input from you then Pole Star. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) More insightful and incisive input from you then Pole Star. J. Nightie night Troll ! ( dont forget your Teddy ! ) Edited July 9, 2013 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Nightie night Troll ! Ahahahahah...........aye, whatever mate. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I see my assumption was correct. Penelope - please don't patronise me. You are beginning to remind me of Jonathan. As for making a fool of oneself - you appear to have cornered that market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Why I disapprove, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358597/Woman-opened-eyes-doctors-New-York-hospital-began-organs-donation-believing-brain-dead.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Penelope - I could be forgiven for thinking that you are another school person posting on here. I note that wit is not amongst your talents. Perhaps you could throw some heavyweight input to any discussion. I don't recall you making any significant contribution at all. Feel free to snipe - it does seem to be your forte. A little light reading for your friend:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358597/Woman-opened-eyes-doctors-New-York-hospital-began-organs-donation-believing-brain-dead.html Edited July 9, 2013 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Penelope - I could be forgiven for thinking that you are another school person posting on here. I note that wit is not amongst your talents. Perhaps you could throw some heavyweight input to any discussion. I don't recall you making any significant contribution at all. Feel free to snipe - it does seem to be your forte. A little light reading for your friend:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358597/Woman-opened-eyes-doctors-New-York-hospital-began-organs-donation-believing-brain-dead.html What was the point of posting that article? Did you read anything past the headline first? That was a case where the FAMILY gave consent to switch off life support and allow her organs to be donated - that is the same system that we have at the moment and has nothing whatsoever to do with the proposals for Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) I also posted that link....the point was despite giving consent..she was not dead......just a minor point I realise....but hey ho. Highlights the need for organs over-rode the correct checking procedure. Edited July 9, 2013 by Sprackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) FalconFN - yes I did read it. It was just another aspect which I hadn't considered. No need to use upper case - it does tend to suggest you haven't got a point to make. Then again - positions are established fairly early on and debate rarely changes opinions on here. The usual suspect(s) post the facts and nothing else matters. The odd, and I mean odd, friend pops up to support them without any thought to whether it makes sense. Some things don't change. Edited July 9, 2013 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 And a quick resurrection This week is National transplant week. http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/campaigns/other_campaigns/detail.asp?id=9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I also posted that link....the point was despite giving consent..she was not dead......just a minor point I realise....but hey ho. Highlights the need for organs over-rode the correct checking procedure. So, you object to a transplant system per se? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I carry a donor card stating all my parts are up for grabs, all my family know my wishes so job done. BUT if you insist on everyone becoming donors then you open a can of worms,aside from the state basically laying claim to your body,which i think is wrong,there is the very real possibility of you being hastened toward your end if you are seriously ill in a hospital. Before you all start shouting that will never happen think carefully,we are already seeing the tip of the iceberg about supposed"care pathway"treatment,and i don't think it is a huge step of the imagination to have a scenario where you are in hospital,it is touch and go whether you survive,you might if you are given the right treatment at the right time, and a young person with kidney failure is desperate for a kidney in the next 48 hours in the opposite ward.Think about it,who would know,and a young life saved.Far fetched,again read about this care pathway and tell me that everyone was treated properly. A slippery slope when the government and the medical world take control of our bodies. Just thought i would update this thread, Well i seem to have been right and the investigation into the care pathway said it was in cases no better than state euthanasia,with people being put on it in the middle of the night and weekends without any consultation with relatives. Do we all still think that if your organs might be needed next door and you had a slim(but a chance)of pulling through that you might be "helped on your way" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Agh well ain't read all the post but get the main of it. I would gladly give any of my organs to a Caucasian (once I'm dead) apart from my liver that's knacked, if it gave another person a fighting chance, I'd get one of my kids to double check to see if I wasn't coming back before they pulled the plug , holding a can of carling under the snout should work Edited July 15, 2013 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just thought i would update this thread, Well i seem to have been right and the investigation into the care pathway said it was in cases no better than state euthanasia,with people being put on it in the middle of the night and weekends without any consultation with relatives. Do we all still think that if your organs might be needed next door and you had a slim(but a chance)of pulling through that you might be "helped on your way" I still don't see that an opt-out system makes that problem (if it exists) any more likely to happen. If you have opted out then they can't use your organs anyway. If you are on the register (which you advocate that people should be and presumably are aiming towards 100% uptake) then you are still susceptible to the NHS knocking you off a tad early. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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