johnnytheboy Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Does anyone have a chart for the lee load all for A1powder, I want to make a 32grm cartridge but i have no guide for starting the bushing charts, i want to start around 23.5grns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Buy a scale. Doing otherwise is plain stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I have a scale but i thought someone would know straight off save getting A1 all over theplace changing out powder bushing to test it! then I can work around that with proven load data until i can find something to suit! Plain stupidity is also commenting on a thread with a referance that have nothing to do with the original post! manners are free, please find some if commeting in future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 John, the chart i have says 0.189 for 23gn a1 and the 0.198 will drop 23.8gn. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Thanks for that, it gives me a starting point! I have cheddite data for 23grains I'll start with that and chrono as I go as I have been given a few loads to test out! Is there plans for another range day? I'll have 10g stuff to pattern and chrono some lead stuff above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Club might be providing chrono and pattern plate this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 That would be awesome, I could bring those huge big rolls of paper foc if anyone needed to keep patterns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 That would be good John, be good to see how your 10g goes with the steel, pattern wise and speed wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I have a scale but i thought someone would know straight off save getting A1 all over theplace changing out powder bushing to test it! then I can work around that with proven load data until i can find something to suit! Plain stupidity is also commenting on a thread with a referance that have nothing to do with the original post! manners are free, please find some if commeting in future! I'm glad to hear you do have a scale but the fact is that most times someone comes on to a forum asking what bush to use it's because they're trying to reload cartridges without one which is madness by any measure. I have had good success using 24grains of vectan A1 with a B&P Z21and 32grams of no6 with impressive kills out to good ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Thanks very much for this, its like one of the loads I have but it was 23grains with the recomendation it was abit light on powder!! I found the bushing's charts are not always accurate so i have always dropped some and weighed it to check, but its a bloody fiddle with the lee, I have an adjustable charge bar that can be dialed in on the mec, but thats set up for 3" and i'm not fiddling about with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I started with 23grains but found it much better for the extra one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have a scale but i thought someone would know straight off save getting A1 all over theplace changing out powder bushing to test it! then I can work around that with proven load data until i can find something to suit! Plain stupidity is also commenting on a thread with a referance that have nothing to do with the original post! manners are free, please find some if commeting in future! first of all, thats the wrong attitude here. Andy here has been dishing out good advice here for ages, and i`d like to point out that, someone asking for bushing size on `tintnet automaticly makes us competent reloaders think "aye- up". all us reloaders know that the bushingcharts are wrong. i have 2 charts published, one by the machine manufacturer, one by the powder company, and another outdated one which i dont count, because its too funny. none of the bushing charts are correct. infact due to the exellent powders out today, and the heavyer densitys, it is quite concievable to be 3 grains out. hardly ideal. 2 years ago i bought a whole load of reloading gear, 2nd hand, most of the bushing were drilled, the lead bar for 24g was dropping 1oz.. so please take the advice of a scale litterally. This is a fantastic resource, and i hope you stick around. but drop the attitude. there are some communication issues with titnternet, as sarcasm and wit, can be very much misread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Even when you have your setup running what you think is the correct charge I STILL drop a charge and weigh it now and then to make sure I don't end up with an over charge. My bushing chart shows some powders but not all. I had to play about to find the best bush for ND28 which has a slight variation between drops. If your bushing drops heavy on both shot AND powder then the pressure will be pushed up and possibly beyond the safe levels if your working close to the high end. It's ALWAYS worth checking your charges before and even durin your reloading episode. That way if you need to make an alteration you do so without having made a huge run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Even when you have your setup running what you think is the correct charge I STILL drop a charge and weigh it now and then to make sure I don't end up with an over charge. My bushing chart shows some powders but not all. I had to play about to find the best bush for ND28 which has a slight variation between drops. If your bushing drops heavy on both shot AND powder then the pressure will be pushed up and possibly beyond the safe levels if your working close to the high end. It's ALWAYS worth checking your charges before and even durin your reloading episode. That way if you need to make an alteration you do so without having made a huge run. I agree with this, I tend to have my scale handy and drop every tenth charge into it to check that all is well. Only takes a few seconds and gives you peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I actually get worse than this, when I am reloading non toxic I spot check my powder that i have hand weighed but with a different scale lol, justto check the firstscale is acurrate, abit ott but you never know. I have a rcbs and a hornady both about 500 grain but i would like to sell the hornady eventually and get a 1010 rcbs so i can weigh non toxic shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I actually get worse than this, when I am reloading non toxic I spot check my powder that i have hand weighed but with a different scale lol, justto check the firstscale is acurrate, abit ott but you never know. I have a rcbs and a hornady both about 500 grain but i would like to sell the hornady eventually and get a 1010 rcbs so i can weigh non toxic shot! weigh 2 sets of 16grams for 32g shot (for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I have to do that now,my steel loads are 36grams so i split it between the two scales, but it would be quicker to have one scale, I'll have to get saving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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