Elk hunter Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Shooting is not all fun and games. Today I had to cull 3 red stags from a park in Gloucestershire as there was just too many of the same size. Plus they were getting aggressive. The largest stag shot killed two hinds in as many days. So his fate was sealed. I take no pleasure in this but it is a job that has to be done. But I always find it sad as the two largest were fine looking animals. They would have made great wall hanges. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 How/why do they kill hinds ? When they're culled as per your photo, Do you go into food chain rather than wasted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 They will enter the food chain first off.. As for the dead hinds, the owner was telling me that the lardgest of the three was hitting the hinds on there backs with his antlers. Over the past week he had seen it knock 4 plus hinds off there feet. Unfortunate for a couple they did not recover very well. It can take the hips out. Head and feet off that stag he came in at 266lb. His hinds would larder weight around 120/130 no more so there is no competition. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks for response, I wasn't trying to suggest culling was in any way a waste or not right. 266lbs is a fair bit of Venison isn't it, in various cuts/joints. Is there any particular reason for them knocking hinds over ? (hardly seems a great pulling technique lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.philmypower. Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 They are fantastic looking beasts Andrew. I would love the opportunity to stalk an animal like that one day. Thanks for sharing. How old would a beast of that size be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Looks like good shot placement as I can see, so no suffering on their part. Nature revolves around a balance and you are just part of the pivot, keeping things in check. Good to know you have a feeling for the old boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 do you use the top set for stick making or do they go wasted (not being funny but would be a shame to see them wasted) would pay postage for a set ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Those size antlers go for crazy money on ebay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Magman Sorry but all three have been caped and are being picked up by a Taxidemist I know. Bit of a trade as he is mounting a North American Bison I culled early this year. As for the age the one at the back was 3 years, front both 4 years old. All brothers same father different mothers. For knocking hind over its a sign of strength in a herd. I find very common when there are to many stags and when they feel threatened and grouped together, the larger animals will push the smaller ones out and in front so they are well covered. Also at though there is a main stag at the top table junior one sometimes just pick on others, bullying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Magman Sorry but all three have been caped and are being picked up by a Taxidemist I know. Bit of a trade as he is mounting a North American Bison I culled early this year. As for the age the one at the back was 3 years, front both 4 years old. All brothers same father different mothers. For knocking hind over its a sign of strength in a herd. I find very common when there are to many stags and when they feel threatened and grouped together, the larger animals will push the smaller ones out and in front so they are well covered. Also at though there is a main stag at the top table junior one sometimes just pick on others, bullying. Wanna swop job's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.philmypower. Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm going to ask a dumb question. Was the bison shot in the uk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Er.........No! I have no idea what you do and my dog would not let me. Unfortunate but it is sad as this animal had been stabbed in the side by a pricket and would not have survived. Hate to see such Awsome animals suffer and even in the picture his body condiction is not good, but in a park Envirorment you still have there basic animal instincs, survival! Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yes it was. Again it was 6 year old breeding bull that had become very aggressive. At Christmas it killed a bull similar size and after that he was unable to run with the herd down in Hereford. Because of his nature no one wanted him so he was turned out. But he killed the stockmans dog, fate was sealed. Stunning animal. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.philmypower. Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Wow you sure lead an interesting life andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 are you sure u have no spaces left..... stunning beast both deer and bison lovely to work with i bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickB65 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 If there are any antlers going then I am always in need of antlers as I carve them into all sort of things..... kind of a hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 All my antlers are sold with the heads. Sorry Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnyblatter Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 How much would a mounted like that go for ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Bunnyblatter I believe you mean as a mounted head from the Taxidemist. Well I know the one I use will mount these and sell the large one for around £400/500 As for shooting it well, all depends how deep your pockets are. I would not of charged to cull these three as I think there is a time and a place for a price. This was not one, but I walked away with the meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Andrew, Please don't take it personally or else, its just my personal thoughts and I fully understand why the cull was done and happy that they will go in the food chain. But Next time that you want to inform people of different aspects in the wildlife, would you please take a picture of a different scenario and not 3 beautiful stags laying in the mud, to then post it on the forum I know that people will come back at me with all sort of words now, but I just feel, that they deserved a better last photo of them. Surely a little patch of grass near by wasn't to far away. Saying this, you might have been in a rush or busy or else.....but can you understand what I mean Andrew Really...I don't want to start a war of how to take photos and so on, I just feel that we should respect the animals, even after life. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Mark I understand what you are asking and saying at the same time. But reality is there was nothing majestic or heroic in shooting them. I don't think sitting behind them smiling with a bit of heather in their mouths was the wright thing to do. As I posted I would not of charged anyone to come and cull these animals as it was very clinical. I merely posted it to show how sad it was to have the shoot them in such a way, but sometimes it necessary. As for respect, it was taken very seriously. They were shot as quickly as possibly with minimum amount of suffering. But I take not offence in you post as we all have our own views and opinions Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Mark I understand what you are asking and saying at the same time. But reality is there was nothing majestic or heroic in shooting them. I don't think sitting behind them smiling with a bit of heather in their mouths was the wright thing to do. As I posted I would not of charged anyone to come and cull these animals as it was very clinical. I merely posted it to show how sad it was to have the shoot them in such a way, but sometimes it necessary. As for respect, it was taken very seriously. They were shot as quickly as possibly with minimum amount of suffering. But I take not offence in you post as we all have our own views and opinions Andrew Absolutely, I am not doubting your professionalism or seriousness of the task carried out and knowing that there was no Hunter pride or pleasure there, still I personally would have take a different picture of them and I think you have understood what I meant about the respect to them, as I said, my words are not meant to criticize nor offend, but pointing out the photo scenario. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Mark I take no offence. But a photo shoot was not on the agenda and I had 4 Prickets culled as well. All to bring back to Leicestershire where I skinned and broke all 7 carcass up in the same a day. Time was against me and my post was to show it's not all fun and games. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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