12boreblue Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I have a Fabarm Euro Lion 3 shot semi auto, It was second hand when I bought it over 5 years ago. I never loaded more than 2 shells and only had the odd jam. I now use the gun much more regularly, and now load 3 shells when pigeon shooting. I had been using 28gram Kent velocitly with no issues. Now I have changed to Express Special Game after the first shot the second shot is released into the loading tray and the third shot is not held back by the little spring clip, but jammed up against the second shot, and it happens every time without fail. Any one have any ideas why this is happening? Or any cures? I stripped the gun and cleaned everything, oiled lightly as usual, can't see any reason other than the cartridge change to cause this. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solz Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 i had the same problem in a webley and scott 810 semi auto, took it to the gun smith then replaces a spring and catch (some where to do with the cartridge relase button, cant realy remember though) however it still did the same afterwards, in the end i sold it back to where i brought it from for a part ex on a benelli, sorry i cant be of more help, solz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Try some different cartridges before you start replacing parts. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 could be the change of cartridges most autos like 70mm shells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauer Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 im not familiar with shells yer using but some shells ( check box for details) are 65mm as opposed to 67mm in length and ive heard of some semis not cycling one lenght and the other ok & vice versa. if you can compare the lenghts of your shells and see if the different maybe thats it.....if the same length sorry dunnoe. paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Check case length first my uncles browing will only reliably cycle 70mm cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12boreblue Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) hi chaps, just to let you know changed shells to the Kent velocity, all is well, reckon the little stop arm can't act quick enough to hold the shell, the smaller one pops past during the recyle I think?? Cheers Edited March 31, 2013 by 12boreblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 the gamebore kent velocity are 70mm and the lyalvale express special game are 65mm so theres your answer, keep using 70mm carts and check before you buy which size they are on the manufactures website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hi, I have the same shotgun, its known the these semiauto don't like lyalvale express, I just switch cartridges and all was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hi, I have the same shotgun, its known the these semiauto don't like lyalvale express, I just switch cartridges and all was good. as i said above, its because they are 65mm!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 You can still use them up, but will have to put a 70 mm shell in as second shot. 65 up the spout won't matter nor should the last 3rd shell. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike737 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 If you are measuring them, remember it is the open (fired) length, not the crimped unfired cartridge length. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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