Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I have a serious problem now, as every time I go to the clay club I am ratching through the empties to pick up some once fired hulls. Last week I came home with a carrier bag full of 12g and 410 gauge carts :rolleyes! Need to start double thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 :lol: your not the only one i am getting a nice stock now i have about 5 25kg bags full just a shame that they dont use some 3" it would save me paying for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I have found tyree and a halves at the ground in the past. I find 9mm brass .36 cal 410 and loads of others. I have close to 6000 hulls now There are some nice ones I like using. Remmington green hulls are nice to reload! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 skip rat keep out the bins or you become a tramp in no time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I take the kids with me and pay them 50p per carrier bag of empties. They can spot a 67mm Fiocchi Top Trap or a 70mm 20 bore case at 100m now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 skip rat keep out the bins or you become a tramp in no time lol :lol: Always had an eye for a bargain, even the freebies! I have a habit of seeing something thats been thrown out that I can use for something other. Just this week I saw a pile of hedge cuttings with a nice 6 foot rose shaft. I am now putting it to one side to season for a stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 bin ratchers the lot of ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I take the kids with me and pay them 50p per carrier bag of empties. They can spot a 67mm Fiocchi Top Trap or a 70mm 20 bore case at 100m now. Can I borrow your kids, I could do with some 70mm 20g shells!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Sounds like a great way for kids to earn some pocket money. I had a friend who used to fish out golf balls from the ponds at golf courses and sell the balls back to the golfers :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I have found tyree and a halves at the ground in the past. I find 9mm brass .36 cal 410 and loads of others. I have close to 6000 hulls now There are some nice ones I like using. Remmington green hulls are nice to reload! Hmmmm Remmy green hulls, reloaders dream, 8star? U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hmmmm Remmy green hulls, reloaders dream, 8star? U No. 6 point crimps They reload fab! I have already reloaded a few hundred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I take the kids with me and pay them 50p per carrier bag of empties. They can spot a 67mm Fiocchi Top Trap or a 70mm 20 bore case at 100m now. thats the best post i`ve read for a long time. lol. i load virgin hulls, its not really worth my time scavaging bins, i have done that, it just means i have 2-3000 new hulls available all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Lord Geordie, I am not trying to worry you but Warf Rat has been doing this for a while now and he is starting to look a bit like Uncle Bulgaria :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 thats the best post i`ve read for a long time. lol. i load virgin hulls, its not really worth my time scavaging bins, i have done that, it just means i have 2-3000 new hulls available all the time. Cookoff do you get your new hulls cheap ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 thats the best post i`ve read for a long time. o lol. i load virgin hulls, its not really worth my time scavaging bins, i have done that, it just means i have 2-3000 new hulls available all the time. Cookoff! I also have BAGS full of new hulls but I was saving those for one off loads or special loads! I am really hoping to get a 410 reloader before the next season starts, and crack on with that. In the mean time I am hoping to fine a fair few bags of 3" 410 hulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Lord Geordie, I am not trying to worry you but Warf Rat has been doing this for a while now and he is starting to look a bit like Uncle Bulgaria :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: I am already like Orinoco, so just have to wait to become older! Don't think I will become Great uncle Bulgaria, but who knows :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Cookoff do you get your new hulls cheap ? yes i do. i get them from folkestone engineering supplies., 97 /2000. thats real cheap as primers are £40 per k so it cost me £10 per 1000 shells. you can recoup the initial cost later on, if you want to sell a whole heap of once fired single type of hulls to your reloading friends. this way it is as cheap as primer only reloading. but you use virgin hulls. but i`ve just bought a short kit, to do 2.5" hulls. so i will be using some up again, by cutting the crimp off. i used to make my empties by shooting off loads of steel, but they rose in cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 do you find it a pain in the kneck having to cut the new crimp or have you got it set up on a mec and just do it as you load them up. I got the crimp starter from c&g but only have a lee loadall and havent sorted anything out with it as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) The lee load all pre crimp and final crimp are spot on. I have loaded virgin hulls and had a chap over a few week back having a go of the load all and even HE managed a perfect pre and final crimp. The final crimp finish on the lee is the issue! It's not quite deep enough for my liking. Easy to sort though. Or by cutting the new crimp did you mean cut down the cart to remove the old crimp and reduce the cart to 2.5"? You can buy a cutter for this which makes.it a simple task but again adds more time to your reloading session. Imagine having to use a case trimmer to trim back.a few thousand carts :blink: Edited April 11, 2013 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 i usually hve a dowl with a blade slotted in it. it takes 5-6 seconds. it just depends how deep or messy the first crimp was. most normal shells are shorter than advertised. if you measure 70mm cheddite, they are 69-68mm, the 67mm are about 66-65. and of course, 65mm, are just shy of 65mm. the mec has an issue with crimps, its designed for american hulls so 70mm hulls are not ideal, and should have about 11mm of mouth to crimp. i bought a long threadded crimp punch for mine, it can help with poor recipe fit, and have a decent crimp. its only 3mm more thread, but can make the difference. i`m currently on a run of 65mm hulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 So you don"t use a brass metal crimp cutter starting tool with your new hulls just the crimp starter on the press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 So you don"t use a brass metal crimp cutter starting tool with your new hulls just the crimp starter on the press whwn crimping, yes! Bring the pre crimp down leaving about 3mm of travel left. If you go beyond you may end up with hexagonal looking crimps. Once you bring the precrimp down just hold it in the position for a few seconds before transfering to the final crimp. Again when in the final crimp hold a few seconds! Lift the arm.and drop a 1 euro cent into the top of the cart and bring the final crimp down all the way. I tend to turn the cart and bri.g the arm down a few times. I have had no problem with new shells in my Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 no i dont now i am as mad as a box of frogs i was told that i had to buy a crimp cutter for new hulls at a cost of about £30 ish can"t remember and i have just into my loading room and made some factory like shells up with new hulls well P**s*d off as i spent all day yesterday making new 3" cutting everyone with the nice fancy brass cripm cutter that i dont even need i am as as a dog now lol. But thanks i always say you havent had a good day unless you have learnt somthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 no i dont now i am as mad as a box of frogs i was told that i had to buy a crimp cutter for new hulls at a cost of about £30 ish can"t remember and i have just into my loading room and made some factory like shells up with new hulls well P**s*d off as i spent all day yesterday making new 3" cutting everyone with the nice fancy brass cripm cutter that i dont even need i am as as a dog now lol. But thanks i always say you havent had a good day unless you have learnt somthing who told you to buy the crimp cutter? i use the mec precrimp on virgin hulls, it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I was under the impression that, although the plastic pre-crimp works, it will wear out quite quickly. I used mine on 100 virgin hulls (the plastic crimp start on the machine) and, it worked but the crimp wasn't as nice as reloaded hulls. Would the brass cutter solve that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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