Will Poon Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Opinions about this brand of gun, anyone have one or experience with one , I've got my eye on one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Expensive Italian favoured by Olympians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 My wife shoots an MX2000 and I've got an MX8. The only difference is the bit of engraving on the action sides and slightly upgraded wood. The addition of choice between coil rather than the usual leaf main springs came with the intro of the 2000. I'd be inclined to go with coils rather than leaf if I was buying again, the leaf springs do have a habit of failing at the most inopportune moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 yes that is true phil, the leaf springs break all the time, well known fact even by perazzi themselves as they give you a couple spare when you buy new willpoon which model you looking at, the sporter or trap? i would make sure it fit me first before i spend perazzi money! have a look at the new mx8 pro trap i wouldnt of though it would use the leaf springs as it is new model, but could be wrong, you can pick up a used one for around £4,600, usual places bywell, chris potter etc. both specialise in perazzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 yes that is true phil, the leaf springs break all the time, well known fact even by perazzi themselves as they give you a couple spare when you buy new willpoon which model you looking at, the sporter or trap? i would make sure it fit me first before i spend perazzi money! have a look at the new mx8 pro trap i wouldnt of though it would use the leaf springs as it is new model, but could be wrong, you can pick up a used one for around £4,600, usual places bywell, chris potter etc. both specialise in perazzi Do you have first hand experience of Perazzi leaf springs breaking or are you just regurgitating a myth? My ownership of Perazzi guns stretches to more than 25 years and several models and can speak from real life ownership. The springs aren't always breaking, it's a case of when they do it's Sod's Law it's the worst possible time. In the spares kit, apart from the spare leaf springs and tools to change them there's also a pair of spare firing pins most people would regard this as a nice touch. In major competition, and I don't mean a round of DTL at a club, if you have a gun malfunction there's a 2 minute time limit to repair or replace. The Referee is helpfully looking at his watch ready to enforce the rules. With a Perazzi it is possible to change a main spring or as I do replace the entire trigger action as I've got a spare one. I can then continue the competition. In your case what'll you do with your Beretta if a main spring breaks, have you got a spare, the tools to replace it and more importantly can you do it in the timescale. A Perazzi is a bespoke gun, buy new and you can have a stock made to your supplied dimensions, or visit the factory to have it made whilst you wait or you buy one with a range of standard dimensions, there are several in their catalogue to choose. A second hand buy means you may be getting an off the shelf stock or one that was custom made for someone else. It might fit or it might not, there's plenty of s/h Perazzi stocks about or go the whole Perazzi experience and get one made at the Perazzi factory. There's a reason why top competitors choose a Perazzi and that is it's a gun designed for competition and it's fit for purpose. The reason why coil main springs were finally introduced was they managed to get the design right to give the crisp timing of leaf springs. The introduction of the coil springs also meant they could have a gun range with a non detachable trigger action at cheaper cost to them and the purchaser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I've had an MX2000 GDS for 8 trouble free years. The best gun I 've owned. No hesitation to recommend one, only real drawback is the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 If you are serious this is the route to take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 If you are serious this is the route to take Quite agree. I've been to the factory many times over the years. I'll be shooting at Lonato in May and I'm trying to factor in time to get them to give my wife's MX2000 the once over unless the workshop bus is at the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 It's a used sporter at a good price, I've had a good fondle with it and it seems to fit me better than the others in the shop but I'll go back next Tuesday to make my decision as may p/x my cynergy for it , if they've sold it by then not to worry, I'll stick with what I've got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Do you have first hand experience of Perazzi leaf springs breaking or are you just regurgitating a myth? My ownership of Perazzi guns stretches to more than 25 years and several models and can speak from real life ownership. The springs aren't always breaking, it's a case of when they do it's Sod's Law it's the worst possible time. i dont have first hand experience but that is what other perazzi shooters have told me including alan at bywell, when i got my beretta from bywell i went up wanting a cheap mx8 trap but it was 29 1/2'' barrel and i wanted 31 1/2'', i wanted a monte carlo stock and a different forend than it had which he said he could fit both for me free of charge if it wasnt a wood upgrade!, he also told me he would show me how easy it was to change the leaf springs in the end the mx8 didnt fit me properly and as i said i wanted a 31 1/2'' i will get a perazzi one day as i would still like one Edited April 17, 2013 by OvEr_KiLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewall968 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi Willpoon Perazzis are great guns and I am lucky enough to own both a 2000s and an mx8. They are not cheap and need to be cleaned after every use as the barrels are not chrome lined. However they can be virtually rebuilt from the ground up so will outlast all of us in our lifetime. The 2000s has a narrower action than the mx8 and as such is nowhere near as likely to suffer from cracking to the stock in the tang and trigger areas. Trigger pulls are also superb. Check that all parts of the gun you are interested in have the same serial numbers - barrels, action, forend iron and wood as well as the trigger unit on the mx8 model. Owners are rather fond of mixing and matching actions, barrels and forends. A good unmolested example will fetch more than one that has been cobbled together. Can I ask what you are being asked for the gun price wise, and how old it is? Pm me on this if you would rather keep info confidential. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Just to update had ago of the perazzi yesterday it fitted me very well indeed breaking the clays and so on, BUT the gun had a intermittent fault after both shots were fired and checking the ejectors the top barrel wasn't ejecting properly upon closer inspection the brass was being slightly crimped on the edge . To cut a long story short it was a no to the gun as it would involve a costly fix e.t.c.. Real shame as the woodwork looked fantastic in the sun and fitted me very well, considering there tailored made for each individual it wasn't meant to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Better luck next time. If the gun has a fault surely the dealer seller will fix it at their own cost. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Better luck next time. If the gun has a fault surely the dealer seller will fix it at their own cost. Figgy i presume that's true in most cases figgy but the gun shop was selling it for an individual , abit naughty for the gun owner not to tell the shop owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 ah commision sale........ probably overdue a trip back to the factory for a service..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewall968 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Willpoon If you like the gun but are put off by the cost of a new ejector, ask the dealer what it would cost to replace. Use that to knock the same amount+ off the asking price. The owner will know that he's going to have to swallow this if he is going to get a sale. Worn ejectors suggest the gun may have done quite a bit of work though and again this can be used in any negotiation. Don't forget these guns can be rebuilt quite easily by a good smith and be put back almost as good as new. I have recently had my 35 yr old mx8 rebuilt and it looks and shoots like a new gun, tight as a drum. Also remember the market for high end guns is pretty depressed at the moment and its a buyers market. Btw many Perazzis come from the factory with standard spec stocks, they are far from all custom fitted at the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Finally got one I'm a very happy chappy , picked it up the other day and I've been shooting at coniston shooting ground today to get the feel of it with Pigeon watch member BlaserF3 , the LOP is an eighth of an inch little short to my Browning that I'm use to but after several boxes and more of shells I noticed no difference . The metal work is near flawless silver actioned as you can see rather the usual black finish, I'm not too keen on the varnished stock just not my cup of tea so it's going to get oiled finished next week , barrel selector and best of all its a multichoke curtesy of teague chokes Is it going to make me shoot better some may think, erm...... Probably not but its nice to have one to shoot I must admit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) nice one mate! you will feal special with that 2000s silver action :lol: i guess it was fixed choke and then teagued? what barrel length is it? Edited April 30, 2013 by OvEr_KiLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Thanks over kill the length is 30 3/4 strange length! Got it from malmo guns near Lancaster well made up with it originally I think it was fixed choke then the last owner went to Nigel teague to get the chokes fitted, never seen a choke so thin walled before, wouldn't want to sit on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) lol nice one bud, the chokes are quite thin yeh, had them in my miroku mk38 which was a trap that had been teagued! my mate just bought a perazzi from malmo recently aswel, cant remember which model think it was a 2000/3 trap adjustable monte carlo stock, adjustable high rib, multi and fixed choke with upgraded wood on it, looks bloody beautiful mate Edited April 30, 2013 by OvEr_KiLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITCHF Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 If you are serious this is the route to take Oh no, why did I watch it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Finally got one I'm a very happy chappy , picked it up the other day and I've been shooting at coniston shooting ground today to get the feel of it with Pigeon watch member BlaserF3 , the LOP is an eighth of an inch little short to my Browning that I'm use to but after several boxes and more of shells I noticed no difference . The metal work is near flawless silver actioned as you can see rather the usual black finish, I'm not too keen on the varnished stock just not my cup of tea so it's going to get oiled finished next week , barrel selector and best of all its a multichoke curtesy of teague chokes Is it going to make me shoot better some may think, erm...... Probably not but its nice to have one to shoot I must admit Very nice, dare i even ask............................ last time i shot a perazzi it slapped me in the face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I had a shot with Will's gun today and it slapped me in the face too. He likes it though, that's the main thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hmmm funny you should mention that its definitely different from my 725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 its down to fit, if you're tall and thin like the owner of the last one i shot......and you are like me you get slapped in the face! How does it compare to a 725? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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