20ga 3 inch #2s goose load

[kiwi]

does any one make such a load in 20ga 2s i kown that baschieri & pellagri make a super magnum 2 3/4 1, 1/4oz duck load up to 3s but i am after some thing in 20 ga , 2s that will truly drop canadas

 

and are b&ps 3s english shot size or amercan , and which is the bigger

[young gun]

I've looked on eley, gamebore, express and hulls websites and they don't offer any thing below 3's in non-toxic

[M ROBSON]

I would concider home loading my own HeviShot, i've heard it's very effective in 20g and there are plenty of published loads.

 

Mark.

[Ferret Master]

I'm on the lookout for some heavy 3'' Magnum 20 bore carts for charlie fox. Preferably lead for obvious reasons.

 

FM

[beatingisbest]

I'm on the lookout for some heavy 3'' Magnum 20 bore carts for charlie fox. Preferably lead for obvious reasons.

 

FM

 

didnt you say a while ago that justcartridges had some heavy 20b loads??

[Ferret Master]

Yes although I'm not buying just one box from them as the postage would cost too much. I have looked on the Eley website and they don't mention 32g BB alphamax carts in 20 bore but they are in the JC brochure... But they do sell Winchester Magnum 35g carts in shot size 4 for 20 bore.

 

 

FM

[henry d]

does any one make such a load in 20ga 2s i kown that baschieri & pellagri make a super magnum 2 3/4 1, 1/4oz duck load up to 3s but i am after some thing in 20 ga , 2s that will truly drop canadas

 

and are b&ps 3s english shot size or amercan , and which is the bigger

B&P size 3`s should be the same as UK 3`s......FYI american 4=UK3 etc.

 

IMO - 1 1/4 oz of 2`s will be about 150 pellets and although canadas are big birds this would be akin to shooting pheasants with 1/2 oz of 6`s ie. under 20 m I would use a 12 or bigger for these birds

 

All the above relate to lead shot which is legal in Scotland in certain areas,it is however NOT in legal England and Wales.

[dodeer]

RC do a 32g load for 20g in sizes uk 2.5, 3.5, and 4.5's.

[kiwi]

thanks for the replys, who are rc , we here in new zealand are alowed to use lead in all our hunting with a 20 b, so it may be my worth trying to track down 20g 2s and give the geese a go i dont shoot a lot off geese but i know they dont like 2s

 

but it looks as if i mit have to hang on to my mp 153 for big bird may be some will come up with a lead goose load just for us kiwis

 

 

im not knocking any but to me , 1 1/4 oz = 1 1/4oz

 

1 1/4 oz in a 12 = 1 1/4 oz in a 20, its not the shot shell size, its the weight of pallets in the shot size, that is the same, regardless of bore size, 1 1/4oz = 1 1/4oz, so a 20 bore in 1 1/4oz is the same load as a 12 bore 1 1/4oz , = same amount off pallets in each cartrige, in the same shot sizings

 

 

so a 20ga 1,1/4oz doing 1350 will reach out with the same number of pallets at the same speed at the same range, as a 12 bore 1,1/4 oz doing 1350fps in the same shot sizing

[Baldrick]

Why would anyone in their right mind fire any load over 1oz/28g from a 20-bore??? Are you mad? The recoil is crippling in a 20-bore O/U with a 30g+ load, let alone magnum loads. I know this from trying to use my 20 for wildfowling.

 

Surely this is where you begin to consider the merits of a semi-auto 20, or a 12-bore?

[henry d]

Sorry Kiwi,it didn`t come out as I had it in my mind

 

I use a minimum of 42gm(1 1/2oz) and sometimes 53gm of no.3`s as I know the gun can take it and it patterns well,which was the point I was making.You need to see how the pattern made by gun/choke/cartridge at your comfortable range is and then decide if the pattern is too "holey" to get a good clean kill.

 

Personally I favour 2`s for foxes.

[kiwi]

im a newbe to 20b , i have been shooting 12 for about 37 years but 20s are new to me, so i have to sort out the make and type of shell im gioing to use, and seeing my local gun shops wont have there new ammo stocks in untill about mid march , im running my mind over about what sort of shell i will buy , as the 1 1/4oz load kick quit hard, and i get a fair bit of barrle flip with it, i can say that it would most likely be a shell for the 2nd or 3rd shot , what grams and type of shell should i,be looking at for mallards and walk up wild jumpy phesant, i think the 3s may do for close geese, and even with a 12 my goose shooting has for the most allways been in close . also 3s are a good shot size for nz paradise shell ducks which is what i use on the parries out of a 12g as they are bigger than mallards and are a tough bird, i used to shoot 3, 1/2 inch 66gr 2 clevers now thats an elepant load that really does kick, but not really when u are conentrating on a bird, most of the time u only notice a guns kick when u are shooting clays or trees, whats the difrence between say a 20b shooting 1 1/4oz and a russan single shot shooting 1,1/4oz i thnk the russan mit even be liter than a 20g auto, raptor is 6lb the m2 20g benelli is some thing like 5.5 lb now thats a gun that will kick im a gas man hate benellis they allways kick me short stock or some thing

[kiwi]

i have been useing fiocchi 1 oz 2 3/4, 5s and thats been knocking my little orchard rabbits dead , the yanks swear by 3 inch fiocchi golden phesant as a top walk up 20g phesant load, saw some once so mit be able to get some again as one of my locals likes to stock fiocchi shotshells, i was sold on 12g fiocchi lead when i shot that so , does any one know what ,say, fiocchi lead,1oz number #4s would be like on decoying mallards

[henry d]

I`d go for size 5 or 6 in 1oz as I use 30 or 32gm 5`s and 6`s for decoying over land and 36gm 4 or 5 on the foreshore.

[Ferret Master]

As Baldrick said; I don't expect it to be in the slightest bit as comfortable as my normal 28g loads but I shall not be firing many magnum carts through my nice light weight 20 bore. Although I wouldn't mind having a bruised shoulder for a week if I nail a fox as the damned things have started to take our stock again. Obviously I would prefer to use the 36g BB carts through Dad's 12 bore for foxes but my requirement for a 20 bore fox damaging cart is a couple to sit in the spare pocket until foxy pops his head out when I'm wandering with the 20 bore or waiting with Dad for a fox and he has the 12 bore.

 

FM

[kiwi]

henry u shooting a 12 or a 20

 

 

i dont think they will ever make a 20g bb but they do make 20 slugs, that would stop a fox wouldnt it we dont have any foxs here, execpt the female kind,the biggest shot size i can find is 3s

[henry d]

I shoot a 12 but I have just taken onboard my m8`s 20 as he`s in rented accom and doesn`t want to have the hassle of fixing the walls after he leaves.

Eley do 28gm BB`s in 20g,but remember thats just 70 pellets,fine for a large target like a fox but not so for a goose etc.

[kiwi]

just come back from doing the rounds of my local gun shops, and 2 of them where out off 20 b hunting loads but 3rd time lucky i got a packet of 28g 2 3/4 rio # 4 feild loads for my rabbits they also had some 3 inch 4s and 5s 1 1/4oz i mit get a few of them and put them away for ducks and long ranging phesants , with my 12b, i like to go to the heaver side of the shot size table, 5s for walk up phesant, 4s mallard duck, evenm when they are decoying birds, 3s paradise shelduck, 2s or bb for canada geese, and 6s for califournan quail which we have a lot off here. 6s are a little bit off an over kill for the quail but i have found that if u hit a quail with a 6 it stays where it drops wing one with lite shot and they will run and can be right little ******* to find when they get away a bit

 

 

so i will probley try out what has been working for my 12b shooting out of me new 20g

[kiwi]

shot shells we get most off here are fiocchi, rio ,winchester, cleaver, b&p, 20 0r 30 years ago we used to get a lot of english makes, but now its eu or amercan thats the troulble with been so small a market we get whats left over from the rest of the world