njc110381 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 A bit of an odd one this. Does anyone here shoot an 8x60? I'm about to pick one up and it seems rather a complicated creature to feed, even with home loads. Bullet sizes apparently vary, or at least can be either .318 or .323 without any obvious difference in the markings on older guns. I'm planning on getting a chamber cast of Cerrosafe made so I can measure it, but even then I think dies and brass could be fun to find? Does anyone here have any leads which may be of use to me? The gun is a drilling so most likely the rimmed variety of the round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 All I knows is; Thems usually good thumping round in a drilling and I mean at both ends! Tend to be loaded with long heavy bullets! IIRC the rimmed are standardised with an R added to the cart' size. The rimmed 8mm Mausers are two sizes but the change goes back ages.....was it S and a J denotes the later being .323"? Will look! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Not far off! http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fototime.com/2ED5CBD87EC8D9F/standard.jpg&imgrefurl=http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/3003/8x60R-Guedes-case-dimensions&h=480&w=632&sz=49&tbnid=CdB39-Ca0RVOqM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=119&prev=/search%3Fq%3D8x60r%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=8x60r&usg=__Fcf35fjNNZeTBm9HQiZjuvVTLM0=&docid=oOJ-_rpzv7Xa2M&sa=X&ei=YKZ1UfCmA7Lb7AaX3YHoBA&ved=0CDYQ9QEwAA&dur=290 U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 The S and J bits are correct. Not seen the one in your link yet though, that's yet another choice! General suggestion seems to indicate that the addition of magnum to the name points it towards a .323 bullet, at least most of the time anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 The S and J bits are correct. Not seen the one in your link yet though, that's yet another choice! General suggestion seems to indicate that the addition of magnum to the name points it towards a .323 bullet, at least most of the time anyway Told you you didn't want a Hornet! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Told you you didn't want a Hornet! :lol: or a 17 hornet and no doubt this will be short lived but keeps life entertaining on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Variaty is the spice of life. No problem with it personaly. Supose some folk love talking guns and others like shooting them down for it..... What ever! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's all in good nature as nj knows as its a long term well documented medical affliction his inability to use a certain gun for more than a fortnight This time sounds more bonkers than usual but personally I'm looking forward to the report on the first mole hunt with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Okok. Well as it happens I suffer from the same itch and itch it does. I say scratch away, what can possibly go wrong! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Usually someone local gets a good used gun then keeps it and shoots things with it the number of people on here that guns that have scratched nj's itches is more than a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 'Ere - I've had my combi gun for the longest out of all of them! And I said I'd never sell it until I found a decent drilling... Well hopefully I've found one! I can't really deny that I like a change of scenery on a regular basis. And yes, a few people have had a good deal out of it. Having said that I buy a lot of used guns too and over all I think I make a bit on as many as I lose on. Selling the .17 Hornet would happen simply because I've done the build and shot it, liked it but already spotted something equally as interesting so I may pass it on. I won't make any money on it but I don't plan to lose too much either - buying and selling is all part of the fun and it gives me a good idea what each calibre is capable of. How can investing in a 100 year old drilling be bonkers? It could well be the best gun I've ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 'Ere - I've had my combi gun for the longest out of all of them! And I said I'd never sell it until I found a decent drilling... Well hopefully I've found one! I can't really deny that I like a change of scenery on a regular basis. And yes, a few people have had a good deal out of it. Having said that I buy a lot of used guns too and over all I think I make a bit on as many as I lose on. Selling the .17 Hornet would happen simply because I've done the build and shot it, liked it but already spotted something equally as interesting so I may pass it on. I won't make any money on it but I don't plan to lose too much either - buying and selling is all part of the fun and it gives me a good idea what each calibre is capable of. How can investing in a 100 year old drilling be bonkers? It could well be the best gun I've ever had. Go for it pal I fancy a combi gun all be it only a 22 hornet one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Now I've bought it I'm really hoping it's a .323... I've found all of four bullets to use if it's .318! FOUR?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Have fun, got pictures? http://www.midwayuk.com/Reloading/Brass-Bullets/Bullets/Rifle-Bullets/8mm-323 U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 If it does turn out to be .323 I'll firstly be very pleased and secondly most likely go with a mid to heavy weight Hornady Interlock RN and drive them fairly slowly. This cartridge runs at between .30-06 and .300 H&H Mag energy - no need to stoke it up for roe and as it's a drilling it won't be used much past 100 yards (more often 50) so trajectory isn't vital. I can save the barrel and run start loads as long as it shoots them well. I need to resize the pictures. When I figure that out I'll post a couple. In the short term it can be found here... https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=f586f291565bf88b&id=F586F291565BF88B%21175&Bsrc=Photomail&Bpub=SDX.Photos&sff=1&authkey=!ADFor1PJ3OwNkEc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Hey! That looks special! The round nose will be a good choice at mod vels! Put in for slug as well! Using that on a deer will bring big smiles. Can't fault your choice. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Looks nice, quite fancy a drilling or a combo myself haven't talked myself into the idea yet though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 At the end of the day they're a compromise. It's a slow to reload rifle that can't be moderated and a heavy to swing shotgun, but when you need both and are miles from home/the car they do have their uses. I do 90% of my shooting with my combi. There isn't much I haven't shot with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Well bought! Very, very nice. Now you really, really don't need a 22 Hornet. What's more, when you've finished with it, it'll look nice over the fireplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 At the end of the day they're a compromise. It's a slow to reload rifle that can't be moderated and a heavy to swing shotgun, but when you need both and are miles from home/the car they do have their uses. I do 90% of my shooting with my combi. There isn't much I haven't shot with it! I bet the combi will be gathering dust now you have this. I still regret not buying a tikka 12g/222 combi that was in a shop near me at a good price, thought about it too long and someone else had it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe soapy Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I bet the combi will be gathering dust now you have this. I still regret not buying a tikka 12g/222 combi that was in a shop near me at a good price, thought about it too long and someone else had it Hey, i had one of those for many years, with the right care it was the most accurate rifle i ever had. would rust whilst carrying it though. Any trace of oil in the barrel band would upset it Always wondered how the delux model got on with the soldered barrel band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 The combi already has a new home. It's still in my safe until the variations are sorted but it's going to a very good friend of mine so not too far away. I'll still get to see it and probably shoot with it now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) I thought I'd bring this topic back up for those who were following it. I picked up the drilling last week. Today a package arrived in the post - a block of cerro low temperature casting alloy. So out came the drilling, an old saucepan and some gloves! I now know after several attempts that my bore is .323 - the newer spec with plenty of bullets about. I've also bought 50 9.3x74R cases to form and trim to 8x60R. So, now I know the spec I can order the dies. Hopefully I'll be shooting the thing by the end of next month! Edit - Oh, and it turns out the gun is fitted with quick release claw mounts - a very expensive part that I was dreading having to buy for it! Edited June 27, 2013 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Thats good then , thanks. Getting interesting! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Excellent, keep us posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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