il cacciatore Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1694902006 At first look this may look like a long over due proposal but look into more detail and you'll find that it isn't just invasive species that will be banned but native species too! Ferrets will be banned and Wild Boar will be banned along with other native species so you could face jail time if you set them loose in the wild. How is a extinct native species like boar classed as alien and invasive??? More misguided legislation from the Scottish executive. What does it even mean in practice anyway? You ban something doesn't mean it'll go away. The grey squirrel wont just pack up its bags and emmigrate to America because its been banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Typical socialist mentality…..ban it and it will go away. Let’s ban drunkenness …..and it will stop. Let’s ban guns………..and gun-crime will stop. Let’s ban paedophiles……….and kiddy-fiddling will stop. Let’s ban etc, etc, etc They are all exactly the same as this lot in parliament, they don’t know what they are talking about but they are ALL experts at it. :blink: G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 There doesn't seem anything wrong with the basics of what they are saying. It doesn't say you can't keep "European Ferrets", or work them, but you cannot purposefully release them in the wild. The Wild Boar issue is a bit mute, as there are none (allegedly) wild in Scotland now anyway. It is the people that want to reintroduce them that will have to make a good case. The damage done to fisheries (especially the R.Thames) in the southeast by Mitten Crabs and the amount of money local Councils spend trying to control Giant Hogweed, fully justifies it being an offence to introduce them into the wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 The Wild Boar issue is a bit mute, as there are none (allegedly) wild in Scotland now anyway. I like the allegedly bit,a 19(allegedly)stone beast was shot on the W,coast on return from a sucessful stalk......... by a lady :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 by a lady :blink: Allegedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 There doesn't seem anything wrong with the basics of what they are saying. Soooooooooooo…………..how many Scottish RSPCA inspectors do you think will be prosecuted when they allow ‘ikkle injured Grey squirrels to be returned to the wild after treatment. :blink: G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 About as many as the Mitten Crab owners that tip their pets in the nearest waterway, when they get too big for their tanks. The Authorities pass laws and regulations on the sure knowledge that 80+% of those affected will abide by them. They do not need to bother chasing and prosecuting the 20 odd% that take no notice, unless they stumble upon them by accident, or have the ocassional purge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Is legislation needed to tackle invasive species? Yes. Will this help matters? No. This by itself will not make Sika, Mink, Greys, Pike etc. disappear. We need investment in control and erradication of non native invasive species. This legislation may help stop some people releasing pets though I doubt it and it will probably stop organisations such as the RSPCA from releasing things such as grey squirrels but as far as I'm aware this is currently illegal in existing legislation. There are calls to include Pheasant and Rainbow Trout and non native invasive game birds on the list too... If you loose a ferret while ferreting, fancy being banged up for the event? Scope for this legislation being misused. Why have extinct native species been included on the list? Due to the hand of man they were made extinct. Reintroduction of european Moose, Lynx, Bison, Wolf and Bear would be a boost to the economy. This needs to be taken into consideration. Its sensible to stop unauthorised release (but would it really?) but this should be considered by the executive if they really care about Scotland. If they want to appear to care about the environment why not start large scale replantation of the Caledonian Forrest (for example) to create natural native habitat to help endangered native species such as the Capercaillie and Pine Marten and boost the economy as well as create a huge carbon sink. Why not ban ugly useless for everything except paper and cheap furniture non native fast growing conifers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon.w Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Why not ban ugly useless for everything except paper and cheap furniture non native fast growing conifers?Money :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nildes Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 What about that herd of Reindeer? Are they going to be packed off to Lapland? Are Sassenachs included? Can they be released south of the Highland Line or must they be shot on sight? What about Sean Connery? Isn't he an introduced species? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yup. Farther Christmas and his Reindeer are banned from Scotland this year, because they are a foreign species. Sorry kids :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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