waynemac Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 has any tried this before,? yesterday,after four days of laying down approx 4pound of pigieon feed(mainly corn) I set out to see what I could bag. After a few hours I had 10 woodys which I discoverd later had been feeding on this every day.they seemed to be very slow in landing and changing direction. has any one else tried this. I have with fish but its a bit different. all most as if I am cheeting! :evil: :evil: lets here your veiws guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdowns hunter Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 I know that you are supposed to feed flight ponds to attract wildfowl but I dont think many farmers would be happy about you putting corn down to attract pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 with all the arguments about "big bags" baiting is the last thing anyone should contemplate . is it then pest control or just the numbers game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazza Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 My opinion is.....................in the interest of pest control,feeding a field, can work!We all go out to shoot pigeons for sport & pest control! Putting feed down onto a field can draw the birds to one place, enabling you to shoot them. But,you must get permission off of the landowner to do this.I have'nt used this method myself,but if I was asked to control the pigeons in a particular place, I don't think the landowner would have a problem feeding a barren field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Wether it was 4lbs of corn a day , or 4lbs over the 4 days, that is hardly enough to be called "baiting" a field. In fact, I would be suprised if it made any difference to the numbers of pigeons visiting the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 half a tonne is usually about right .......not that I've ever done it, of course............ :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazza Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 mmmm.................. :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin15 Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 It is ilegal to bait a field for pigeons, The main people who do it are pigeon guides, they have only one thing in mind and it isn,t pest control or sport it is cash how much cash they can charge. Malc now i know why you said you dont need a rotary device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazza Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Hiya Kevin.........I appreciate your opinion, but could let me know where you got your info about it being illegal to bait a field from!..........Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Kev, thanks for your reply.......wrong though. I am a guide and as far as I'm aware, it IS NOT illegal to bait fields in the U.K., though it may be morally wrong. We are not all motivated by money, I charge £60 per day REGARDLESS of the bag size, if there are no birds in the area, I don't take clients out, I don't charge more for bigger bags, therefore, no need to bait, unless I WANTED to. Seems you don't like guides..........WHY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 p.s......I accept that some of them take the ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 [quote Malc now i know why you said you dont need a rotary device.<!--QuoteEnd--> Sorry, I'm not with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Kev, personally I have never baited a field for pigeons, probably 'cos I'm too tight to spend money on pigeon grub, but to be honest I don't see the problem. I've baited traps for other pests and I've used feed to keep pheasants. No problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Thanks Kev..........and the point you make is true, there are a couple of VERY WELL KNOWN GUIDES who are doing the rest of us no favours at all, my views on huge bags are already known...........what goes around come around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Kev, I think you're being a little unfair to Malc, there is a world of difference between shooting pheasants in a pen and throwing some corn on an old stubble field to attract pigeons. On my shoot, I release 1000 pheasants to provide myself, family, and the other members of our syndicate with 8 mini driven days each season..........anybody who shoots low or unsporting birds is asked to stop shooting immediately, nobody (well, almost) would want to shoot a pheasant on the ground. We all seem happy to shoot lots of pigeons as they 'pile into the peas', or whatever, and the 'sportiness' of the shot is seldom taken into account, despite the fact that the birds may be desperate to feed. If there are large numbers of birds in an area, and they are difficult to come to terms with, and the farmer is pulling his hair out and giving you hell, then why is baiting a field so very different to letting birds build on a crop for a few days just "so I can have a good day at them on Saturday"? I agree with you that if done purely for commercial reasons,i.e.,greed, then the practice is certainly not ethical.....but who are we to de-cry the occasional shooter who just wants a decent day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdowns hunter Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Well its ok for you lot the only big bags I ever get is the one I carry my Decoys home in. Maybe ill have to come poaching in the Midlands of Kent Deako if I book a couple of days with you, do you supply the women for the evenings entertainment ALL INCLUSIVE ?? hh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 will lazza do?......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazza Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 He certainly will!!!!.......... :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.I. countrysports U.K. GARY Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 If people are going to slag off guides then they really ought to be naming them. I am sure a lot of rumor that is passed around about guides will get exagerated along the way. Feeding fields is just not on.... We all know that we shoot Woodpigeons in the U.K. all year long under special licence, granted purely for pest control purposes. Feeding fields to lay on bigger bags goes against the reason that the licence is granted in the first place. Guides operate in areas where there are plenty of pigeons = lots of crop damage. If they haven't got plenty of pigeons then surely they haven't got a viable business. I operate in an area where pigeons can do £1,000.00 worth of damage on a single pea field in a day. Especially in May/June when they are eating the pea flower. Controling the pigeons in my area saves the farmers huge sums of money and this forms the basis of good crop protection. Shooting pigeons on fields where they are not really causing damage eg. Stubble, set aside. Is a means of lowering numbers to more acceptable levels. We would all like to shoot more, but crop protection should be our main reason for doing it in the first place. GARY WILSON (G.I. country sports U.K.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynemac Posted October 4, 2002 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Well guys a mixture of replys ? thanks to you all, maybe I can find a pigion magnet on ebay! instead of a bit of corn. But what is the difference between a little bait and decoys,except if i left the decoys out they would surely dissapear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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