il cacciatore Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 When I was asking round farm one farmer said: 'No cause I'm making good money from people shooting vermin on my land' Is he having me on or do people pay good money to shoot vermin? Don't be mistaken he didn't have game, he meant vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 When I was asking round farm one farmer said: 'No cause I'm making good money from people shooting vermin on my land' Is he having me on or do people pay good money to shoot vermin? Don't be mistaken he didn't have game, he meant vermin. Iv come across farms who have paying customers yes... But this was a farm sporting around 1000 acres with various types of crops...which can make for excellent pigeon shooting. If there was a good stream of pigeons i wouldnt mind paying to secure a place. Aslong as i wasnt being ripped off and there wasnt a pigeon in sight. At the end of the day its upto the farmer if he wants to charge or not, it depends if there is anything worth charging for to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 This was a small sheep farm. No crops no steady stream of pigeons. I was just asking to shoot a fox every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 This was a small sheep farm. No crops no steady stream of pigeons. I was just asking to shoot a fox every now and then. lol in that case i wouldnt even bother, plenty of other places to shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 This was a small sheep farm. No crops no steady stream of pigeons. I was just asking to shoot a fox every now and then. lol in that case i wouldnt even bother, plenty of other places to shoot Not according to them that posts in 'Gaining Shooting Permission' there isn't :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 in my opion you should ask for the shooting of rabbits crow and pigeons and the like first as many farmers support the hunt and dont want the foxes shot so asking to shoot the rabbits ffirst is my first ask after shooting some rabbits over a month or then ask about foxes shooting the **** first of paves the way for better thing to come cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm not so sure about paying him to shoot. You are doing him a favour after all! I'd tell him to get lost! There are farmers that will let you shoot. Finding the first is always the hardest. Once you have the one and he trusts you, all his mates will either come along asking for your help, or at least be a lot easier to approach because you are trusted by someone they know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 i think that will be a thing that will come, farmers charging for pigeon shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Your right about the Hunt Kirky, one farm said no because the hunt comes round for the foxes. i think that will be a thing that will come, farmers charging for pigeon shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm not so sure about paying him to shoot. You are doing him a favour after all! I'd tell him to get lost! Oooh so the wrong attitude. I'm willing to bet if you actually had the balls to tell farmer that you wouldn't have much shooting land left! We're lucky (at the moment) that pigeons aren't seen as being worth much to shoot AND are classed as a pest but when people see they're on a par with the best sporting birds that could change drastically! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 On one large estate I was asked to go for an interview with the Estate Manager, to check my suitability for permission to shoot pigeons etc. He actually asked me if I was going to charge him!!! I obviously said it was my hobby, and that there was no charge, and I got over 2,000 acres. Sole permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytleburgher Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dont want to fuel the Flames but BASC arent helping matters. http://www.basc.org.uk/media/diversification_advert.pdf Id preffer not to pay. Its expensive to start with! Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dont want to fuel the Flames but BASC arent helping matters.http://www.basc.org.uk/media/diversification_advert.pdf Id preffer not to pay. Its expensive to start with! Nige have they ever helped.thats why i never rejoined.and for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dont want to fuel the Flames but BASC arent helping matters. http://www.basc.org.uk/media/diversification_advert.pdf Id preffer not to pay. Its expensive to start with! Nige have they ever helped.thats why i never rejoined.and for the price. Thats absolutely disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 in my opion pigeons are to unpredictable to shoot in any garenteed numbers, as many of us know so this fact alone will keep numbers of people wanting to pay for it down you just have to look at the number of guides that do it for a living not many and the ones that do will have other means of income i bet. the toffs that are paying 25/26 quid plus vat per bird are paying that because its a garenteed days shooting im not the biggest fan of big commercial shoots. any way hope you all have many happy days shooting cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dont want to fuel the Flames but BASC arent helping matters.http://www.basc.org.uk/media/diversification_advert.pdf Id preffer not to pay. Its expensive to start with! Nige Ah, the good old BASC shafting its members again……….what a surprise…..NOT!!! They seem to live in a dream world, or on another planet to the rest of us. First they charge twice as much as any other shooting organisation to join, and then they try to get you to pay for something that was free for years until they decided to persuade your friendly farmer to charge you for it. This is exactly why I left…all they care about is grabbing your money and making sure they drive the latest model Range Rover. As long as they look after the big estates and the “posh†end of game shooting they don’t give a stuff about the likes of us. DSC1 and DSC2……who encourages these courses at @ £250-£300, and more to the point who runs them. Who put the idea forward for the hygiene courses at @ £120 a time The good old BASC that’s who. They really make my blood boil at times. :( G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedandlazee Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Me and a few others have just set up a small synidcate on some land mind you we are allowed to shoot both game and vermin. However the farmers response was that he needed to make money wherever he could so i suppose you can't blame them in the current climate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I approached one farmer who said "I have one bloke on here who pays me a tenner everytime he goes out" I looked shocked and replied "Oh well good luck to you" and promptly walked off after saying my farewells. I think he wanted me to say "Oh I will pay as well then" To be honest we are doing them a favour but they are doing us one as well so everybody wins. A token gesture such as pick of the game bag, bottle of scotch at Xmas and letting him know if any maintenance need doing (that you can't fix yourself quickly) is a fair trade. There are bad apples in every barrell and if you don't want to pay then don't. On the BASC note I do feel as though the airgunners are treated as the "oh forgot about them" section of the membership. However this maybe due to the small percentage of airgunners to live round users and shotgunners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy75 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I would have thought DEFRA would have a thing or two to say about farmers getting another income from land that is probably heavily subsidised by them already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 "I would have thought DEFRA would have a thing or two to say about farmers getting another income from land that is probably heavily subsidized by them already!" What the hell has it got to do with DEFRA. With farming margins falling all the time, or should I say now non existent some farmers and land managers are bound to look for any extra income they can get. I sincerely hope that as someone who shoots and relies on the good will of farmers to provide the where with-all to do so, you have taken the time to understand what subsidies are all about. ct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy75 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 What the hell has it got to do with DEFRA. As I work in the agri industry, yes thankyou I am painfully aware of what DEFRA means to everyone. The last time a local chap charged someone to use the land he was alreading claiming for set-aside from the powers-that-be, he had to cough up the entire years money for that acre-age, even though he'd been doing the cash back handers for only 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 This was a small sheep farm. No crops no steady stream of pigeons. I was just asking to shoot a fox every now and then. lol in that case i wouldnt even bother, plenty of other places to shoot Not according to them that posts in 'Gaining Shooting Permission' there isn't :( hehe, good spotting, but if you read it i would have mentioned that if the land was filled with promising shooting oppotunities...I.E loads of pigeons, 500-1000 acres of crops, i wouldnt mind paying.. My comment in this thread was in reply to the OP's post which was "his was a small sheep farm. No crops no steady stream of pigeons. I was just asking to shoot a fox every now and then" In which case, i would never pay for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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