chelly Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Well had my FEO out today regarding a open ticket. I had asked for this as sometimes I get asked to control vermin such as rabbits or foxes on other land to my permission. I have had to refuse as when I mention I will need to see if the land is cleared the land owner as said not to bother as they wanted it doing there and then. So my FEO comes today and tells me he has no problem with me having an open ticket. He still needs to run it pass his superiors but he then said I will need you to supply a couple of letters showing that you have been asked to do this. So how the hell do I get letters which are not permission letters but a quick call from someone asking me to dispatch vermin as a one off, which I cannot do without an open ticket, which I carnt get without letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 From people who have asked you in the past if there are any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelly Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 From people who have asked you in the past if there are any Yes there is, I have one letter already. Just think its another red tape to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Maybe another hoop to jump through but if he only wants a couple of letters then maybe well worth the effort in the long run mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Well had my FEO out today regarding a open ticket. I had asked for this as sometimes I get asked to control vermin such as rabbits or foxes on other land to my permission. I have had to refuse as when I mention I will need to see if the land is cleared the land owner as said not to bother as they wanted it doing there and then. So my FEO comes today and tells me he has no problem with me having an open ticket. He still needs to run it pass his superiors but he then said I will need you to supply a couple of letters showing that you have been asked to do this. So how the hell do I get letters which are not permission letters but a quick call from someone asking me to dispatch vermin as a one off, which I cannot do without an open ticket, which I carnt get without letters. go to your permissions which you already have, and those permissions you have done one off jobs for , make a standard letter up saying that you are doing it for payment , and they are employing you to clear there vermin, once you get the landowners to sign this it should be enough for the open ticket. Edited July 21, 2013 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 How long have you had your fac for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelly Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 41/2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I wrote a standard letter and put the names, addresses, phone numbers of the land owners who had i had permissions to shoot on and why an open ticket was necessary to have and submitted it. I phoned my FEO an explained that it would take a lot of time running about to get letters from all the farms i had, as they are fairly spread out around the Mid Wales area. And as he could appreciate these people are busy, but i have phoned them and all we willing to take a phone call to clarify that i shoot on a regualr basis for them. He said it wont be a problem and he shouldn't see any problem with it being opened up. That was the last i heard about it till it fell on the mat in my flat and it was opened on all calibers i had on it. Note all forces are different though and still may need actually writen confirmantion of all the land owners you have permission on. Good luck with it though, hope it goes ok for you :good: DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 The worst case scenario is they should already open the cert up apon renewal, but hope you can get it sorted sooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Cant see the problems with closed ticket, as long as the lands already on the data base. Just a quick email to the firearms auth with the grid ref , add, name and cont number of the new perm.Once you get a confirmation email back your good to go.As long as this works I am in no hurry for an open ticket. For me it works like this.The farmer I already shoot for asks me to cover his other farm, ok I have a drive around with him.I then say as I, m a closed ticket I have to clear it with FA, e-mail sent that day with grid ref , name and add of farm and cont n0, confirmation e-mail sent back the next day stating we phoned farmer and now add this perm to your file. Gun in the 4x4 and off to new perm. Personaly I have no desire to be granted an open cert until renewal, this will give me time to gain experiance and put the ground work & shooting hrs in. I get out twice a week and average 60/70 rabbits a mth.PLEASE NOTE I am not saying everyone should stay closed for 5yrs, I am saying a closed ticket for me is not a burdon Edited July 21, 2013 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 If you are in BASC give them a call & get them on the case that's what you pay your membership for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Out of interest what are BASC going to do other than suggest go along with the simple requirements of the FEO, if you have lots of requirements then showing proof is ideal to justify an open ticket. It stops every Tom **** and Harry popping up and saying they have lots of ground to shoot if they had an open ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 send in the names/addresses of those people who have asked, and then said don't bother he's only wanting to see a paper trail, otherwise everyone in the uk would be saying they are pest controllers and were losing money being a full time pestie with a big company (but not using FAC for work) but my own work on the side, I too had to show a paper trail, I also had my own website page on pest control services/prices, which probably helped, as I was given an open cert on first application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelly Posted July 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Well hopefully sorted, one letter from an estate manager and one from a pest controller. Let's see what else they want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 go to your permissions which you already have, and those permissions you have done one off jobs for , make a standard letter up saying that you are doing it for payment , and they are employing you to clear there vermin, once you get the landowners to sign this it should be enough for the open ticket. Is it for payment? That would change the insurance situation and make things a bit more complicated. I reckon your feo will get your open ticket sorted, he just needed something in writing to back up the request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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