rabid bunny Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Let's clear this whole mess up. Firstly, when your neighbour called the Police, they would have spoken to an operator in a Police enquiry centre somewhere. They would have created a computer log relating to the incident and then sent the log to the control room. The control room would then make a decision regarding how the job would be resourced. The circumstances will be passed from person to person until they eventually reach an officer. There are a lot of 'chinese whispers' involved when people call the Police. So much so that the original incident often bares no resemblance to the version of events passed to the officer that comes out to you. I would take the allegation of hitting the windows with a pinch of salt. Had there been any credible evidence then you would have been arrested there and then. If the control room deem the threat to be a low one then they would send your average bobby on the beat. If they thought that there was a higher threat (such as people shooting at other people) then they would start getting armed response units together. The Police have to deal with thousands of different crimes and can not be expected to know each individual law word by word. My advice would be for you all to know your law down to the act and section. If you can illustrate to an officer that you are aware of the laws and prove that you are taking steps to act in a lawful manner then they will leave you in peace. Shooting an air gun is not an arrestable offence. The police are very unlikely to arrest anybody unless the offence carries a five year prison sentence or if the police think the offender may not respond to a summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Shooting an air gun is not an arrestable offence. The police are very unlikely to arrest anybody unless the offence carries a five year prison sentence or if the police think the offender may not respond to a summons. One word ******** Tiercel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid bunny Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Shooting an air gun is not an arrestable offence. The police are very unlikely to arrest anybody unless the offence carries a five year prison sentence or if the police think the offender may not respond to a summons. One word ******** Tiercel It explains it all here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/powersofarrest.shtml it says this: Where the offence is relatively minor, police officers are expected to use other means, such as a summons, before resorting to arrest. In other words, arrest should only be used if the police cannot find your name, or suspect that you have given them a false name or address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeneyman Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 "Shooting an air gun is not an arrestable offence. The police are very unlikely to arrest anybody unless the offence carries a five year prison sentence or if the police think the offender may not respond to a summons." All offences are now arrestable, regardless of prison sentences. Even littering. The Police do, however, have to justify each and every arrest and state why it was necessary, and why it couldn't have been dealt with in another way. The most common reason for arrest is so that evidence can be obtained by way of questioning (interviewing). As a result, the majority of 'offenders' are dealt with by way of arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 As a result, the majority of 'offenders' are dealt with by way of arrest. But that doesn't make any money! I would have thought they would fine people with the fixed penalty notices to get the money rolling in rather than waste time arresting people. That's all the police force are today isn't it? A money making "company". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Hmm - this part of that linked site is interesting: "An "arrestable offence" is defined as one that would attract a prison sentence of five years or more. But there is a long list of exceptions, some of which are understandable, while others appear to be more for the convenience of the state. For instance, you can be arrested without a warrant for offences under the Official Secrets Act - this includes the infamous section 2 in which almost any information known to a government employee might be considered a 'secret'." Probably explains why so many young louts seem to get away with so much these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeneyman Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Trust me, the law has changed as a result of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Powers Act 2005. All offences are now arrestable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 just out of curiosity, if a police officer knocked at your door and asked if you had been firing an airgun in your garden and you hadnt (but you had one on the premises), is he entitled to confiscate it anyway? even if it had never been in the garden at all? this is hyperthetical and im just curious. I'd be inclined to refuse thats all. Also, i read a story about a guy whose garage got burgled one night last year. The noise of the window breaking woke him up and he could clearly see a man rumaging around, so he phoned the police and reported it, telling them the theif was still on his property. The police response was that they didnt have enough patrols to send someone straight away but they would be there asap. He rang them back a minute later and told them they didnt need to bother coming around after all, he'd just gone outside and shot the theif! minutes later several squad cars appeared with a socco unit and armed response, they arrested the theif (uninjured) and said to the homeowner "i thought you said you shot him?" to which the man replied " i thought you said you had no cars to send!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 That's an old one monkeyjaimz. Been doing the rounds in various guises for a while, urban mythh? Discuss. This thread was started on Dec 8th and still hasn't gone anywhere has it? Opinions are like ****holes. Everyone has one and they nearly always stink. Get where I'm coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Didnt realise that, what about my question though? and if ar***oles only nearly always stink, which ones dont? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Is this one still running? What if the gun on your premises was borrowed and wasn't properly working and there was some confusion because the bloke next door often shot an airgun but most recently had shot it on Christmas day or rather it was his 12 year old brother who did when he was at work but his brother was being supervised by his brother's brother in law who had a spent criminal conviction and who whilst being 22 years old had recently been in a serious accident at work and had (temporarily) reduced to a mental age of 11 but was prone to moments of lucidity.... Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Is this one still running? What if the gun on your premises was borrowed and wasn't properly working and there was some confusion because the bloke next door often shot an airgun but most recently had shot it on Christmas day or rather it was his 12 year old brother who did when he was at work but his brother was being supervised by his brother's brother in law who had a spent criminal conviction and who whilst being 22 years old had recently been in a serious accident at work and had (temporarily) reduced to a mental age of 11 but was prone to moments of lucidity.... Discuss. Please don't...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Didnt realise that, what about my question though? and if ar***oles only nearly always stink, which ones dont? MINE. Because I am always right, even when I am wrong. Only less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Well oi've already washed my ***** ol once this year even tho it dint really need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 We can all see where this is going.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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