Dog training - Threats - Shotgun

[BRNDL]

Mine have all been introduced to shot at a clay ground. Park up in the car park, have a little walk round on the lead with the shots in the back ground, treat it all very naturally and then gradually get closer to the guns. Plenty of praise and reassurance and the job's a good 'un!

 

Does this then allow you to shoot by the side of them when out in the field? I would of thought the constant bang at a clay ground would be ok, but a shock when you release both barrels in the middle of your perm?

[the pigeon man]

Keep going every week it's all I did with Hugo and look at him soon as he here's a bang heads in the air looking to what's falling its all I ever did my local has a long road as well so start at bottom and work up

Keep going every week it's all I did with Hugo and look at him soon as he here's a bang heads in the air looking to what's falling its all I ever did my local has a long road as well so start at bottom and work up

Keep going every week it's all I did with Hugo and look at him soon as he here's a bang heads in the air looking to what's falling its all I ever did my local has a long road as well so start at bottom and work up

Keep going every week it's all I did with Hugo and look at him soon as he here's a bang heads in the air looking to what's falling its all I ever did my local has a long road as well so start at bottom and work up

[sixhills 69]

I have 2 ESS I started at 6 months walking around local cay ground twice a week I then moved the dog to the car park and left her in the car, I did this for three Sundays by the time she was 9 months I introduced a starter pistol whilst doing training by 10 months I introduced her to a shot gun whilst sending her on to find a dummy (single shot only) at all times I used the stop whistle on ever shot now she hers a shot and sits looks at me for what I want her to do next.

I am now training her pup he is happy at 6 months to sit whilst I shoot my Hmr he is not fused at the clay ground and I have taken him the other day and shot a crow with my shotgun and he went straight out to retrieve it I will continue with him as I did with his mother.

Take it slow build it up see how your dog responds each dog is different .

To fast and the dog will become gun shy.

Watch your dog

[oscarsdad]

Both my dogs were introduced to gunfire at the clay ground...the terrier had already watched a firework display on the beach when I took him fishing at 15weeks (I didn't realise it was on) and he just watched, I didn't really introduce him slowly to guns, he saw I was not scared so he didn't care.

 

Same thing with my cocker, took him to the clay ground just sort of ignored the fact there was gunfire - he saw that both me and the terrier take no notice of the bangs so neither does he - he just wants to retrieve clays, especially rabbits.

 

I appreciate this is not the traditional approach and I think I have been very lucky in that both dogs are both very bold and not frightened of much.

[pontbeck]

There are individuals who take the introduction of gunfire in their stride but I wouldn't take the risk as if the dog is apprehensive or worse it can take an age to get them round and , in some cases ,you will never be able to shoot over them.

I have used a clay club to introduce gun shot but this club uses an old airfield and I can walk the dogs in from over 500 yds away. I take a dummy and give the dogs retrieves as we approach the guns, if they show any signs of being uncomfortable I stop and walk away. I've had dogs that will walk right up to the guns the first time out and others that have taken 2 or 3 times before I felt they were ready to walk right up.

 

Bill

[BRNDL]

Thanks guys...The pigeon man has offered to take me to the clay ground near him with his dog Hugo. If he can get the time off work I think its a good plan and is going to be my current tack with this introduction.

 

I will let you know how I get on.

 

Thanks again and thanks for the PMs too.

[rascal72]

Introduced mine with a friend starting with three shots at approx 60 yds and progressed closer over a period of about two weeks repeating everytime with one shot at 60yds then three closer until I had him(the dog) sat while I shot he now looks at every shot but its slow going as I got him as a 13 month old rescue dog that had been abused and this is the first gundog ive trained

[welsh1]

The law is very unclear on this, be very careful.

 

If you have permission of the land owner/property owner and in the case of a telephone line the bill payers permission you can legally record/tap the conversation.

 

But if you are on public land or somewhere without permission, i beleive you can record (Audio/visual) if you are obtaining evidence of a criminal activity.(hence PI's recording Personal injury claimants in public places and even in the subjects garden! as this evidence would be used in a possible fraud case)

 

If you were to record anything my advice would be to keep quiet about it unless you are useing it as evidence in criminal proceedings.

I didn't put up my advice for the fun of it,i think i am well placed to give the advice i gave and it is not unclear,you can record any one in a public place at any time you do not need a reason.

I wear a head cam every day and record hours of footage of people in the street and even in their property,if you are an individual you can record under section 36 for your own protection or the protection of property,this covers everything if you want to record.

 

As for tapping someone's phone line i would leave that to government.

[lister22]

seeing as this was a horse man why did not give him the harvey salute and tell him to get stuxxxx