simon6ppc Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) hi guys, just a quick question, i have a remy vssf 22.250 what OAL do you use when you load only the v.max bullet, cheers simon Edited August 9, 2013 by simon6ppc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Length from ogive or oal ? My sako can be loaded longer than my tikka. Edited August 9, 2013 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Length from ogive or oal ? My sako can be loaded longer than my tikka. OAL dougy,i have no gear to measure from the ogive, with the v.max tip being higher than a soft point i would say it should be longer,i could be wrong though,cheers simon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Try lightly seating it and marking the bullet with black pen and chambering the round. Once you know where it engages the lands you can measure and back off. Personally though I would get the gear to measure to the ogive as its so much more accurate and easy to swap between bullets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Simon don't be tight, you can get a proper tool for the job there less that a tenner. LOL They look like a nut with hole's around the side's. Or a Hornady joby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Blooming phone Edited August 10, 2013 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Norm in the books seems to be 2.350" unless its a short bullet (the real light stuff generally). You may well find the tips on bullets vary a bit and ogive is more accurate, I was surprised to see my ogive tool thing appears to have a straight hole through it (I was expecting a taper) I'll have a look to see if I can find its diameter for you, they look very easy to make if you're handy with that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I took a different route. Size an empty case and cut a thin slit down the neck with a dremel. Seat a bullet long and chamber the round gently. The bullet will push back into the case and the dummy you eject should be just touching the lands. You do have to ensure it doesn't stick on the lands when you pull it out, but if you use a sized case with good neck tension it should hold. Do it a couple times, measuring after each. That will give you a pretty good OAL. I then make up a dummy round, blacked it, and chambered it to confirm. Once i am happy it is right, i super glue it and label it. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I took a different route. Size an empty case and cut a thin slit down the neck with a dremel. Seat a bullet long and chamber the round gently. The bullet will push back into the case and the dummy you eject should be just touching the lands. You do have to ensure it doesn't stick on the lands when you pull it out, but if you use a sized case with good neck tension it should hold. Do it a couple times, measuring after each. That will give you a pretty good OAL. I then make up a dummy round, blacked it, and chambered it to confirm. Once i am happy it is right, i super glue it and label it. Thanks Rick I thought that was pretty normal? However, once you've done that you'd measure the o.a.l or length to ogive and make your loads up to 10, 20 or 30 thou' less than that. I assumed that's what simon was after, I may well be wrong though. Load data usually gives an o.a.l, which isn't to ogive but the overall length (which can vary because of dented tips etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) I took a different route. Size an empty case and cut a thin slit down the neck with a dremel. Seat a bullet long and chamber the round gently. The bullet will push back into the case and the dummy you eject should be just touching the lands. You do have to ensure it doesn't stick on the lands when you pull it out, but if you use a sized case with good neck tension it should hold. Do it a couple times, measuring after each. That will give you a pretty good OAL. I then make up a dummy round, blacked it, and chambered it to confirm. Once i am happy it is right, i super glue it and label it. Thanks Rick that is what i have done pal,just that the OAL length i end up with looks to be to long to be honest as the 250 bullet does usualy sit deep in the brass, i do my soft points at 2.350 and they shoot brilliant,when i load v.max with the same die they are rubbish,so was just wondering if any body with a remington does load a bullet that sits quite high in the brass with a v.max that is, or my remy musn't like v.max which is strange as it shoots under half inch at hundred yard with cheap soft points, cheers simon Edited August 10, 2013 by simon6ppc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Norm in the books seems to be 2.350" unless its a short bullet (the real light stuff generally). You may well find the tips on bullets vary a bit and ogive is more accurate, I was surprised to see my ogive tool thing appears to have a straight hole through it (I was expecting a taper) I'll have a look to see if I can find its diameter for you, they look very easy to make if you're handy with that sort of thing. ye cheers pal,be grate full if you can, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Done my best and it measures .213" or 5.45mm, I'm not sure it matters though; I think the point is that a given point on the bullet's side is more accurate than the tip - and you'd use that to make sure they're all the same rather than the tips which can vary. Hope that helps anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 ye cheers pal,that does seem small,i went to a shop and the standard v.max factory is 2.334, thanks again simon, to be honest i think my remy just doesn't like v.max 40,s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Simon 55gr nosler bt in my sako bear in mind its had a custom barrel measures 2.097 & 50 nosler are 2.0935. The tikka measure 2.020. Using 60gr vmax allot shorter than the sako. 55noslers in the tikka are 2.007 showing a significant difference. At the mo the Sako is out performing the tikka chucking out a nice 0.89 group at 310yds on Sat evening, only 3 shots mind. So load wise they pretty good. These are measured from the ogive using a hornady OAL gauge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 ye cheers pal,that does seem small,i went to a shop and the standard v.max factory is 2.334, thanks again simon, to be honest i think my remy just doesn't like v.max 40,s I guess a 40gr bullet is quite short so may be quite a jump before its in the rifling? Can't claim to be any sort of an expert mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Simon 55gr nosler bt in my sako bear in mind its had a custom barrel measures 2.097 & 50 nosler are 2.0935. The tikka measure 2.020. Using 60gr vmax allot shorter than the sako. 55noslers in the tikka are 2.007 showing a significant difference. At the mo the Sako is out performing the tikka chucking out a nice 0.89 group at 310yds on Sat evening, only 3 shots mind. So load wise they pretty good. These are measured from the ogive using a hornady OAL gauge ye cheers dougy can you give me the OAL of the bullets you have just mentioned,cheers simon.i have no tool as yet to measure from the ogive, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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