il cacciatore Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I was thinking, if someone owns a really nice gun with a real nice piece of wood and would like to have it on display to be admired, is it possible? I know that guns should always be kept in a locked safe when not in use but would it be possible to have them securely on display or is it illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonrms Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I dont think so, I believe they have to at all times be locked away.. in a safe gun cabinet.. unless deactivated. which no one wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I am sure i have seen some really expensive glass fronted display units? will have a look ........... This will cost you http://home.btconnect.com/tfca/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I can only imagine how expensive those are... I'm sure I read somewhere that one shotgun gun may be secured by the means of a wire cord anchored to somewhere safe where the cord goes through the trigger guard and around the barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 You can use one of those wall clamps aslong as its clamped to a solid brick wall. Some authotities might be iffy about it though. Depends where you live i suppose..If you live in a block of council flats its abit of a problem. If you live out in the sticks you have more chance/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Lord Linley (cabinet maker extrordinaire) makes one for about £30000 and I guess if you've a gun that worth looking at then it's not a lot of money It would be illegal to have a working shotgun on display without some sort of security but (and not many people know this) it's not a legal requirement to have it in a secure purpose made cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 That seems like one of those good reasons.... to get broken into I know where your'e coming from, and you might be 50 miles from anywhere but some things are best kept out of sight perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 As long as its secured and insured wheres the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I'd be inclined to agree with Dave-G, and I too understand why you'd like to have your gun displayed. I keep a pair of bins in the car for work (sheep farmer) but I keep them out of sight, since out of sight = out of mind for any oppertunist. After all even if someone were to see your gun and break into your place there's nothing to say they'd be able to to remove your gun seeing as it'd be well secured but do you want someone breaking into your house to try? I wouldn't but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Shotgun hanging on the wall for the world and his wife to see........ I think you'll find the insurance company just may refuse to pay out. And don’t think I’m being facetious, because my lad was made redundant at the beginning of September and Barclays insurance refused at first to honour his unemployment insurance stating that he wasn’t claiming “The right sort of unemployment benefitâ€. Fought it all the way and finally got over £800 back and hopefully he starts work within the next few weeks. I also watched the Watchdog program last week in which a man became disabled with some awful problem that took off most of his skin and left him blind in one eye and with very little sight in the other. His mortgage insurance refused to pay out stating he had “The wrong sort of disabilityâ€. I think you would be asking for a shed-load of grief. G.M. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Just like to point out that I don't have a gun of such elegance that I would display it but was thinking of the legality. From an insurance perspective, if the gun is secured by the means of an anchor or by being locked in a safe there is no difference as long as you don't have it in a room that casual visitors are going to see. I would think though I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 If you leave something of value in your car boot and it gets stolen, then you should be covered by your insurance. Try leaving it in full view on the back seat and see if they pay out. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 All you are required to do in law is to keep your guns safe - there is no requirement for a cabinet. Common sense yes but requirement no. There is a precedence set with a case that the judge agreed 'safe' was behind a locked front door and as such if you are sure in the knowledge that your gun would be fine above your mantelpiece that will be OK in law so long as you lock up when you leave the house. BUT can you be sure? Why not buy an old hammer gun and deactivate it - get a Proof House certificate and then its no longer a gun and you can do what you like with it. Well nearly - don't wrap it in brown paper and take it for a walk as it may look like a table leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >All you are required to do in law is to keep your guns safe - there is no requirement for a cabinet. The Firearms act says that a local chief of police can impose any conditions he feels are necessary on a certificate holder. Whilst I can't be ***** to look through all my books to find a bit which says you do need a cabinet (you may be right and it might not even be there). I can assure you no police force will let you have a ticket without a cabinet/vice clamp etc.. Why not build yourself an armoury and get the whole room cassified as a cabinet! I was going to, but the walls of my 'gun room' are plasterboard so it would have been too costly. When I move though I will have a proper armoury . All you need are brick walls, bar on windows and a solid wood fire door sandwiched between two 6mm sheets of steel, a steel frame, and a couple of mortice locks and some hinge/anti jemmy pins on the door. Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Firearms act says that a local chief of police can impose any conditions he feels are necessary on a certificate holder. Whilst I can't be ***** to look through all my books to find a bit which says you do need a cabinet (you may be right and it might not even be there). I can assure you no police force will let you have a ticket without a cabinet/vice clamp etc.. Rarms, For a start there are no Police Forces in the UK. Period ! They are all Constabularies or Police Authorities. Yes the Chief Constable can insist on virtually anything. By adding a variation to your FAC he may insist that you stand on one leg and whistle whilst you use your rifle and in the same way insist that you do this and that with regards to your security. But he can only do so in the interests of Public Safety. If you can show there is no danger to the Public if you do not keep your guns in a cabinet there will be no such requirement imposed on you before granting a certificate. The law (and your certificates ) say you should keep your guns safe, and I fully agree that in most instances it is sensible to do so by way of a cabinet - but not essential. I know of one person that has an open rack for rifles and shotguns in his live-in kitchen and two others that keep guns in the cupboard under the stairs but remember security is all relative to evnviroment you live in. There is likely to be a little more crime in Toxteth than in the wilds of the Scottish Hils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 years ago i had an old hammer gun on the wall, looked nice and it worked but that was years ago, times change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >I know of one person that has an open rack for rifles and shotguns in his live-in kitchen and two others that keep guns in the cupboard under the stairs Which area is this in? In that case I stand corrected with regard to that if they are factual references, but I would think that in this day and age, a court would not be on the side of the certificate holder if a question of safety was bought up in court with regard to having or not having a cabinet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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