tweedledee Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 guys just wondering about the mid range autos that seem to have disappeared lately,i`m talking about the franchi raptor and fast models? they seem to have died a death of late. I looked gmk and it seems there is no mention of franchi guns. also what about the beretta es100 and even the fabarm models.... anybody shooting the beretta es100 or the franchi fast models and how do you rate them???I know the franchi 712 models are great guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 get a 712,or a used A391.I thik the ES100 looks and feels cheap.A good A303 is hard to beat as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 The ES100 was built in spain, possible production has been wound up, Franchi,well GMK were never that keen on actually selling any in the UK when i saw them at a game fair they just said buy a lanber (was looking for the OU models) and only had one or 2 Semis (none of the ifast 12 the really light one) Franchiusa seem to have different models on offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Lol don't fancy an escort and need somethin fairly light for hide work and waking.don't want a top of the range as it will likely get scored.whatever i buy i ll keep this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) How about the Baikal MP153 or Armsan 612? http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/baikal_mp153_semi-auto http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/armsan_a612s/ In wood Edited September 1, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 The Escorts as well as wrecking the mid range auto market here have also reduced many of the older better made and well looked after Auto values s/hand. after that your basically into SX3 etc. if your thinking £500 ish then look at the second hand racks etc. some good bargains out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 As above have a look at the 391 great gun for around £450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I`m trying to get at why these others seem to have disappeared??? is it down to the escort being so cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Tweedle, Have a look at the Beretta A300 Outlander. Currently selling new for about £840,it has the modern gas regulation system from the A400 models. It is very much like a modern 303. I have had mine for over 18 months and about 10,000 cartridges without a failure of any kind using 28gm cartridges. Vic. Edited September 1, 2013 by VicW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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