Wildfowler325 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I am looking for a way to darken the stock on my browning 325 as its very light. The stock already has an oil finish but the stock is very light so would like to darken it What would be the best thing for the job? Cheers W325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would re finish the stock and use a mixture of different stains/dyes and oil to get a suitable colour. I don't like trying to build on top of an unknown 'oil' finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would re finish the stock and use a mixture of different stains/dyes and oil to get a suitable colour. I don't like trying to build on top of an unknown 'oil' finish. Its not a unknown oil finish. I did the oil finish but the wood rejected most of the oil making it very light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Try fuming with ammonia . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Its not a unknown oil finish. I did the oil finish but the wood rejected most of the oil making it very light What did you use? How did it reject the oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) What did you use? How did it reject the oil? First i used CCL wood stain. Instead of soaking into the wood it would just sit on the surface. I applied almost the whole bottle which made little diffrence. I then sealed the stock with CCL grain sealer. Finally i applied a coat of CCL conditioning oil to finish off Edited October 4, 2013 by Wildfowler325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Did you remove all the old finish first?? It sound like there was still old finish oil or lacquer still on/in the stock before you started with the stains/oils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Did you remove all the old finish first?? It sound like there was still old finish oil or lacquer still on/in the stock before you started with the stains/oils Nope all the finish was removed with nitromors then sanded with 300, 600, 800, 1000 grit paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zx12rash Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Wrong kinda oils / stains. Did you dampen the stock first? Dampen and sand the grain. Repeat until grain no longer stands. Then once left to dry for a day or two. Stain with a water based stain. Let it soak in. Bring it up to a colour you like. I go darker than I want because I use 50/50 oil and white spirit for a wet sand with 600 to fill the pores. Do that twice. Once you've done that. Start with thinned layers of oil. (Thinned with white spirit.) do a couple of layers with white spirit so the oil can really penetrate. Then run over as many layers of oil as you see fit. I do about 10 layers and you get a deep finish. I did this with a beech stock and it came out grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Wrong kinda oils / stains. Did you dampen the stock first? Dampen and sand the grain. Repeat until grain no longer stands. Then once left to dry for a day or two. Stain with a water based stain. Let it soak in. Bring it up to a colour you like. I go darker than I want because I use 50/50 oil and white spirit for a wet sand with 600 to fill the pores. Do that twice. Once you've done that. Start with thinned layers of oil. (Thinned with white spirit.) do a couple of layers with white spirit so the oil can really penetrate. Then run over as many layers of oil as you see fit. I do about 10 layers and you get a deep finish. I did this with a beech stock and it came out grand. Wrong kinda oils? Dont think so! I'v a walnut stock not a beech.. Edited October 5, 2013 by Wildfowler325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Wrong kinda oils? Dont think so! I'v a walnut stock not a beech.. Something's not right I do around 20 stocks a month I've spoken to other guy who do about the same or more (1 of thems been doing it for 30 odd years). None of us have seen this before unless you didnt remove all the old finish. We don't use paint stripper on oil finishes. Or the grain is sealed then stain applied (wrong order). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogc Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Something's not right I do around 20 stocks a month I've spoken to other guy who do about the same or more (1 of thems been doing it for 30 odd years). None of us have seen this before unless you didnt remove all the old finish. We don't use paint stripper on oil finishes. Or the grain is sealed then stain applied (wrong order). What sort of oil do you recommend for a semi gloss finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Time to start again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 What sort of oil do you recommend for a semi gloss finish. I make my own up to an old recipe given me by an ex Hollands stocker who taught me, and it's a secret ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I make my own up to an old recipe given me by an ex Hollands stocker who taught me, and it's a secret ;-) I was lucky to be gifted some of Sage 100 liquid gold, for a best London hand rubbed finish. Made to his own secret recipe. With his very good advice I done a couple of my own stocks to a really good finish,a labour of love that I enjoyed. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) I was lucky to be gifted some of Sage 100 liquid gold, for a best London hand rubbed finish. Made to his own secret recipe. With his very good advice I done a couple of my own stocks to a really good finish,a labour of love that I enjoyed. Figgy ;-) good stuff isn't it Edited October 5, 2013 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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