colin lad Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 sorry it's another what scope question but am thinking of a pulsar digital nv scope but would like to ask those of you who know what is the advantage of the n750 over the n550 as its only going on my .22lr for rabbit work, so is it worth the extra money to put it on the lr, if it was going on the cf then i wouldn't ask as i would go straight to the dearer n750 colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 If you can get 1 I would suggest a Photon for your .22lr as they sit so much lower & as you know .22lr's as loopy as you get The N550 can be had pretty cheap, it brought Night Vision to a lot of Shooters - The N750 had a much better screen so you see a much better image. You need LED IR with either of the units to get the most from it. Must also mention- the doubler that's built into the N750 is a digital one & so the image quality goes off when it's used, it's a much better image when an after market doubler is used such as a Dpinto or Dr Bobs with a Yukon lens. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 What about the 200 are they up to lr ranges?? Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 The Nitesite 200 ? I have no experience of them Perhaps I could steer you towards this place - http://####.com/index.php - You'll find all the Night Vison info you could ever want & more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 i've got a n550 and with a doubler and a nm800 its ok up to 200 yards on foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I am of the understanding the NS200 is very capable out to 200yds, thats more than enough for LR ranges!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) I've got an N550 on my .22LR and its more than adequate for rabbit shooting now I've got a decent illuminator on it. (Nitemaster 800). I wouldn't think there'd be any advantage to spending the extra on a 750 for .22 ranges. With the NM set on medium power which suits it best I can see clearly to shoot to 100 yards and could certainly mange 150 if it was on an HMR. Turn the NM up to full power and I can spot ahead to 200 yards and in good conditions, 300. They do sit a little high but I have no issues with trajectory. I'm zeroed a touch long at 70 yards and everything from close up and out of focus to 100 yards goes over. They are quite weighty units with the Nitemaster fitted. The Pulsars are festooned with all sorts of superfluous gimmickry like video links and so on. All they really need is an on/off button, contrast and focus. So they are a bit of a lump. Works very well though. After two years mine has paid for itself. It all comes down to price. Don't know what S/H prices are but if a S/H N550 is cheaper than a Photon, buy a N550 with confidence. If there not much in it try to have a look through them both somewhere, maybe at a dealer on a dark evening, and see which you prefer. Edited December 1, 2013 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 The photons are about 400 new the 550s seem to to be 600ish+ s/h how are they for day shooting are they usable or do you need a 2nd set up to dedicate for night work Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) hi buddy i have a 550 with a nm800 /sony lens and it will do 200yrd plus,my mate has a photon with a yukon lens and a t20 and there nothing between the two.he also has a ns200 thats great but is now for sale after getting the photon.either set up will be good for the 22 Edited December 1, 2013 by pork chop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thanks all may look at the photon also as above with a t20 as it will be a lighter set up than the 550 at nearly a kilo as shall be walking an bout a bit colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 the photon has got a better shooting position than the 550 but a narrow field of view .also i find the focus on the 550 to far forward and slightly out of reach .given the choice of the two i still dont'nt know which one i'd go for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) The photons are about 400 new the 550s seem to to be 600ish+ s/h how are they for day shooting are they usable or do you need a 2nd set up to dedicate for night work Colin Forget using the 550 as a dayscope. It works but its very grainy and without eye reflection you need a colour image in daylight. Its very good at dusk though, when day scopes are giving up and excellent in moonlight. For day/night capability you need an add-on NV unit. Either the Pulsar digi add-on or an Archer. Either will be three times the price of a Photon or S/H 550. I agree with Porkchop about the ergonomics of the 550. Its OK on a left handed rifle but a pain for right handers. I do like the wide field of view though. You pick up other targets in the periphery and the wide picture makes it easier to fix the location of carcases for picking up. Edited December 1, 2013 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 i guess i could always leave it on the lr all winter as a dedicated night gun and use the hmr for day shooting, its just the 4am summer shooting where noise is a factor that i use the lr in daylight colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Colin starlight who make the archer are bringing out a digital add on from £400, means you could use your existing scopes and swap it between rifles much like you can an archer but at a much lower price. Should be available January onwards, I've no idea how good it will be but it looks very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 What about this- http://www.pitchblacknightvision.co.uk designed for rimfire and pcp air rifles can be used night/day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 My .22 is a dedicated night shooter. An HMR and a .222 cover all daylight duties. Its a good system. Winter NV shooting is invaluable for keeping numbers down come the spring. Its plinking I miss with my .22 now I've tied it up with NV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Colin starlight who make the archer are bringing out a digital add on from £400, means you could use your existing scopes and swap it between rifles much like you can an archer but at a much lower price. Should be available January onwards, I've no idea how good it will be but it looks very interesting Sounds interesting. Is this a fore or aft add-on? The offset lens and zeroing complications (and the size) of the Pulsar add-on put me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 It's the same as the archer so you either need a stock extension or mount the scope as far forward as you can. Personally I find the archer needs you to adjust a bit but you get used to it fast and this looks a similar length. If they get it right it may be a very good device they are already saying the base model should id foxes to 200 yards and the more expensive models even further. Being able to use it to scan then mount to the rifle is the huge bonus like the archer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Colin starlight who make the archer are bringing out a digital add on from £400, means you could use your existing scopes and swap it between rifles much like you can an archer but at a much lower price. Should be available January onwards, I've no idea how good it will be but it looks very interesting sounds very interesting as i liked the idea of your archer more than anything else it's just a bit expensive for rabbiting for me as i shoot know where near as many fox's as you, i will have to wait and see, if you here any more please let me know mate colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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