adam_h Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I've spent the last two days trying to find permissions around the St Neots, South Cambridgeshire area with absolutely no luck. I take the "no sorry, we've already got someone" with a smile and thank them for their time but it's getting a bit depressing. I've got one permission but it's in North London which is just over an hours drive from me and with a one year old it's a little limiting. I've got a .17hmr and shoot mainly rabbits but would love to find someone to go shooting with nearer home. Is there anyone who lives near-ish me that also shoots rabbits/fox so I can go out a bit more and hopefully anyone who might need some help maintain their permissions? I appreciate that finding permissions are not easily come by and are cherished but it's getting very frustrating. Merry Christmas Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Do you only have an FAC, or are you shotgun shooting as well. I only ask because its my experience that farmers are very cautious about allowing FAC holders on their land without references, or some previous experience of the individual. If you also have a shotgun that is the easiest way in. If you have a shotgun, keep an eye on the rape fields now and into the New Year and when you see the birds hammering a particular field, find out whose it is and ask if you can shoot the pigeons on that field, don't ask for a lifetimes permission to shoot every field the farmer has, start by asking about a particular field while the pigeons are on it. He will know there are pigeons there and if nobody else is on the field you have a good chance of getting permission. From that start, other fields get added and on it goes. I have obtained a lot of shooting land with this approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 thats a breath of fresh air, after reading the usual answers cranfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Do you only have an FAC, or are you shotgun shooting as well. I only ask because its my experience that farmers are very cautious about allowing FAC holders on their land without references, or some previous experience of the individual. If you also have a shotgun that is the easiest way in. If you have a shotgun, keep an eye on the rape fields now and into the New Year and when you see the birds hammering a particular field, find out whose it is and ask if you can shoot the pigeons on that field, don't ask for a lifetimes permission to shoot every field the farmer has, start by asking about a particular field while the pigeons are on it. He will know there are pigeons there and if nobody else is on the field you have a good chance of getting permission. From that start, other fields get added and on it goes. I have obtained a lot of shooting land with this approach. ^^^^ This is sound advice, I get people knocking on my door almost every weekend (I imagine some people off here have been at my door) and it's just not safe or feasible to have dozens of regular shooters, but......when pigeon are hitting fields I can see from my house and someone has left their number with me, they'd get a ring. I have two regular shooters, but lots of 'hit men'. Do as above, show you know your beans, and turn up with the bad news of hundreds of pigeon on a single field, and ask for a 'day permit'. Edited December 12, 2013 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_h Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Cheers guys, I've got both FAC and SGC but yet to get my shotgun as funds didn't allow at the time. I can get a shotgun now but am limited to about £400 so second hand it is. Often it's hard to find out which field belongs to whom as there's often no ****** about on the farm yards lol. Kyska and Cranfield, thank you for your advice, I'm hoping that with both shotgun and rifle I can cover most problems and build a working rapport with my local landowners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimboblincs2 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ask the local pest controllers if they ever get any jobs that won't pay, I've picked up a few bits and bats like that, once you get known, things will pick up. Cheers Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 It will come mate as it has been pointed out landowners seem to favour you getting rid of pigeons with a sg rather than letting you straight on with a rifle, but keep trying mate you will get a yes and once you have one , more will probably fall on your lap, I secured 3000 acres around 5 yrs ago without asking, my freinds son went to a private school and another boy from the schools parents owned a farm and mentioned they had a rabbit problem but didn't know anyone they could trust, Next thing unknown to me he had given my number and they rang and they asked me, after a month of clearing the population of rabbits on there land they asked me to go to 2 neighbouring farms. Very good freinds now I work on the farm on my days off (well paid) And it costs me £20.00 a year on a Christmas present for them, everyone's happy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Sounds like some good advice to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 show you know your beans. Sound advice, but it was only the other day you posted that you didn't know your beans http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/268399-new-to-me-beans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Sound advice, but it was only the other day you posted that you didn't know your beans http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/268399-new-to-me-beans/ you just can't say anything on this site without someone remembering LOL adam_h give me a shout in the new year and i will take you out for a few goes would help though if you weren't so secretive in your profile page though colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Sound advice, but it was only the other day you posted that you didn't know your beans http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/268399-new-to-me-beans/ It could been know your rape I suppose, that'd attract the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 It could been know your rape I suppose, that'd attract the police. I'm surprised it doesn't sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 you just can't say anything on this site without someone remembering LOL adam_h give me a shout in the new year and i will take you out for a few goes would help though if you weren't so secretive in your profile page though colin I do hope you aren't thinking I'm a bull talker? We're just in a flux with a new contractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I do hope you aren't thinking I'm a bull talker? We're just in a flux with a new contractor. Think that was more to me remembering the previous thread mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I do hope you aren't thinking I'm a bull talker? We're just in a flux with a new contractor. not at all it was tongue in cheek answer colin Think that was more to me remembering the previous thread mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 not at all it was tongue in cheek answer colin Sorry, lost in quote, thumbs up (on my phone, no smilies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 How ironic, I had a permission in Eley not that far from you and couldn't find anything near North London. It's a shame because if I still had it I would have offered a swap!! Good luck with getting permission, it can be frustrating but persistence will pay off. And as already said, watch the fields and ask to shoot that field when it's being hammered. You then have a foot in the door. Cos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 no worries mate and as for beans all the fields i shoot that have beans do get a lot of crows on them makes for some good shooting colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_h Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 you just can't say anything on this site without someone remembering LOL adam_h give me a shout in the new year and i will take you out for a few goes would help though if you weren't so secretive in your profile page though colin Colin, v kind of you, hope you and yours have a great Christmas and new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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