The Essex Hunter Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Some clips of my home made decoy pulley, only done of my phone so not very fast but quite a lot of fun with the pup trying to assist my efforts!! I made a small grapnel with an eyelet on the end of it, the cord is in a 40 metre loop running through a stainless diving swivel dog clip. I tied a little loop on the join to attach the string of decoys and then just pull the cord and the ducks head out to sea!! When I throw the hook I use a small pole in the bank so no to loose the cord, I need some fishing swivel clips to make up the bridal, but this test was to work out the wrinkles… Laying the cord in a neat coil is most important prior to launching the hook.. Over all it went well so I will test it out down the river near me before going out on the marsh.. http://s856.photobucket.com/user/TheEssexHunter/media/decoy%20pully/003_zps15206d5e.mp4.html TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lg1 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Pretty cool well done .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I have no idea if itll work but it looks fantastic, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 This sort of pulley idea could work at a place I shoot, Cant get over to the far bank and thus far I have been throwing a longer line out there and walking back so I can get a few decoys over that side. Done on a pulley I could get a couple or three over quite square to the exact spot I want them to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 This sort of pulley idea could work at a place I shoot, Cant get over to the far bank and thus far I have been throwing a longer line out there and walking back so I can get a few decoys over that side. Done on a pulley I could get a couple or three over quite square to the exact spot I want them to sit. Here is a clip from this morning on the river Crouch...I could not use the phone and work the cord, so only a clip of the decoys sitting in the river... The wind was blowing in my face just at the top of the tide so a good test.... 3 decoys are enough imho and making sure the line is not twisted before throwing is a must! Apart from that only having them out a short distance is fine as I have noticed ducks sit close to the shore in the lee of a good wind... http://s856.photobucket.com/user/TheEssexHunter/media/decoy%20pully/004_zpsbc2de6af.mp4.html TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yeah, Think I will have to investigate this one further, its giving me a few ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeshooter Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well done feller an old school coy rope re vamped it works a teat even on a blowing marsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsay Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 can you put up some pictures of the pully system mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 can you put up some pictures of the pully system mate? I can but it is very basic....but as you took the time to ask I will do that for you... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 can you put up some pictures of the pully system mate? As I said it is simple other wise it would not work in the hands of shooters lol The grapnel is made out of 6mm re-enforcing bar about 200 mm long and legs around 150mm with some lead strips to add a bit of weight.. The clip is self explanatory and 40metres of cord with the join knot and little loop to clip the ducks to, the stick is so you don't loose the whole thing when you lob it out in the water.. I will get a flat bait box to pre-coil and store it in with a bit of foam the keep it from tangling... The cord is in a loop running through the clip so it is not connected to the hook making it less lightly to tangle. I put the cord over my tow bar run my finger down the 2 cords so there is no tangle then coil it and put it away. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 That is virtually identical to the rig I use! I use a small fold out anchor (one for a jetski or something) clipped onto a stainless pulley to allow the line to move freely. I've then got stainless rings tied onto the free line for the decoy clips to hook onto. I use para chord for the line. I got all of it of the bay for about £15 delivered! My rig gets about 16 decoys out tied directly to the line, with the option to attach another decoy onto the primary ones allowing for a massive pattern. The biggest problem I've found with it is dealing with the line on the bank! There is the initial pulley 'loop' which usually has some spare and then the free line to hook decoys onto... I normally hook the loop around my wading stick whilst I pull on it, hooking on decoys as I go but in strong winds in the dark it does become a pain! If you manage to solve that, let me know!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Mine is thrown from the bank/rivers edge and only 3 decoys on a line using fishing swivels to each decoy has a line and a clip, a bit like the elephants holding each others tails with there trunks as the walk along.... Less in more.... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Very practical. Perhaps you should make one for pigeon decoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 The elephant thing is how I clip mine on i.e. Second decoy onto the primary (your explanation is a lot better!) but I can clip 16 or so sets of 2 or 3 decoys on... That parts not the problem it dealing with the 'loop' whilst clipping them on. If the loop isn't kept taut it's easy to get tangles, as I say I've tried hooking that around my stick and it helps but strong wind causes issues! I mainly use it when It's really cold and I want a big pattern so I can't send the dog to retrieve them all. Overall a great system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Very practical. Perhaps you should make one for pigeon decoying. What and compete against the site sponsors...lol TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 The elephant thing is how I clip mine on i.e. Second decoy onto the primary (your explanation is a lot better!) but I can clip 16 or so sets of 2 or 3 decoys on... That parts not the problem it dealing with the 'loop' whilst clipping them on. If the loop isn't kept taut it's easy to get tangles, as I say I've tried hooking that around my stick and it helps but strong wind causes issues! I mainly use it when It's really cold and I want a big pattern so I can't send the dog to retrieve them all. Overall a great system! I keep the tension on the cord just like when you open or close a big set of curtains....as the loop runs through one hand acting as a brake... I recon your rings might be some of the problem as they will want to flip over and must act against each other TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm carp at explaining things so I've drawn a picture! The free line with rings attached allows you to throw the anchor out as far as possible before any decoys are attached so as to avoid ripping the clips and swivels about and to ensure you get the anchor as far as possible without the extra drag. Once the anchor is out I put my stick through the other end of the loop to keep the pully loop of line taut. Then i can clip on a string for decoys, pull the pully and out they go. Clip on the next ones, pull the pulley, out they go. Once all decoys are attached you can pull the pulley to get them as far out into the estuary as possible (or wherever you want them) and with the 'free' end (attached to a stake so it doesn't pee off) of the pattern can be adjusted by moving it along the bank or tightening/loosening it to allow the tide to take them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g fletch Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 very realistic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm carp at explaining things so I've drawn a picture! The free line with rings attached allows you to throw the anchor out as far as possible before any decoys are attached so as to avoid ripping the clips and swivels about and to ensure you get the anchor as far as possible without the extra drag. Once the anchor is out I put my stick through the other end of the loop to keep the pully loop of line taut. Then i can clip on a string for decoys, pull the pully and out they go. Clip on the next ones, pull the pulley, out they go. Once all decoys are attached you can pull the pulley to get them as far out into the estuary as possible (or wherever you want them) and with the 'free' end (attached to a stake so it doesn't pee off) of the pattern can be adjusted by moving it along the bank or tightening/loosening it to allow the tide to take them. Well this is all new to me....but one thing is I have learnt through work etc that spinning too many plates causes them to crash!! For my money cut down on the number of decoys by 2/3's as you will miss just as many ducks lol TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 The more deeks the more chance of that anchor pulling in a strong tide. I like the fact that you can send a few over the other side leaving the inside edge clear, all the way across then l like the simple single line with the anchor deployed well up current. Add deeks one at a go and feed out the single line, the way shown seem to have advantages in placement over this single line up current which will reverse with tide. I am thinking about three decoys placed at the tip of an island etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 The more deeks the more chance of that anchor pulling in a strong tide. I like the fact that you can send a few over the other side leaving the inside edge clear, all the way across then l like the simple single line with the anchor deployed well up current. Add deeks one at a go and feed out the single line, the way shown seem to have advantages in placement over this single line up current which will reverse with tide. I am thinking about three decoys placed at the tip of an island etc. Then get making and stop typing lol or we might call you Jonathan!! TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well this is all new to me....but one thing is I have learnt through work etc that spinning too many plates causes them to crash!! For my money cut down on the number of decoys by 2/3's as you will miss just as many ducks lol TEH The number of decoys doesn't make it any more difficult (I very rarely put more than 12-15 out as I don't want to carry them!) The practicalities of the lines in wind is the downfall in my experience. If the forecast is strong wind ill default to individual lines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) The more deeks the more chance of that anchor pulling in a strong tide. I like the fact that you can send a few over the other side leaving the inside edge clear, all the way across then l like the simple single line with the anchor deployed well up current. Add deeks one at a go and feed out the single line, the way shown seem to have advantages in placement over this single line up current which will reverse with tide. I am thinking about three decoys placed at the tip of an island etc. It would take a serious number of decoys to pull this out! I have tried the single line thing, but if the wind is onshore it doesn't work as you have no control over how far into the creek the decoys travel... Edited December 31, 2013 by Wildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 It would take a serious number of decoys to pull this out! I have tried the single line thing, but if the wind is onshore it doesn't work as you have no control over how far into the creek the decoys travel... That is a lumpy thing....I have been guilty of over engineering all the work I do for people ( however they don't break) but with this rig it is light weight and for me the key is being mobile. I am a pigeon shooter who has worked out the pigeon shooting will be poor for a little while longer so any advantage helps with the ducks.. check out these I designed www.theessexhunter.co.uk TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 It would take a serious number of decoys to pull this out! I have tried the single line thing, but if the wind is onshore it doesn't work as you have no control over how far into the creek the decoys travel... Actually five will do it easy, all depends on the flow you are up against. There is a lot of variation on location. I use twice that anchor on one venue and still the thing will pull some when the bore hits. I think you mis understand the single line from my description, it a lot easier to show than tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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