Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I will do ! It feels strange that it should cost me all this money and upset for something I didn't do , I have been shooting for aprox 44years without one incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 All I can say is if you have no revocation letter which allows you 21 days to appeal you have not been revoked ! I am at this moment in a simila position with Essex police, they have decided to revoke my fac and sgc for harassment to an ex over 4 years ago to which I must add was not true hence why the case got dropped . Essex police have visited me twice in them four years once to change address and once for renewal so why did they not take them then if I was a danger? They have also lied there back teeth out saying that they could not find me when I was on bail for five months yet in that time I went to court 3 times for ajurnment and to the police station at least twice one of which was for permission to go on holiday which was no problem the court is aprox 100mtrs from the police station, it's a joke...... But not for me as I have sent in my appeal within 21 days and got myself a barrister and a court date and maybe you should do the same ! This is my first post on here but I will let you all know if I win or lose. Was you revoked or served a section 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Revoked in December ! One of my sons have my shot guns and a rfd is holding my rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I've been where you r mate I used peter glenser he was excellent who is your council Is it essex as in Chelmsford ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I tried Peter but he wanted £8000 . It's at Basildon mate how long ago did you go to court and how much please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I tried Peter but he wanted £8000 . It's at Basildon mate how long ago did you go to court and how much please If you win can you claim your costs back against the police firearms dep't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I've been where you r mate I used peter glenser he was excellent who is your council Is it essex as in Chelmsford ?? Peter also wanted to use a solicitor BASC give me his tel no then when I called BASC back and told (..... .....) what price I was quoted he said he is taking the p... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Can I pm you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 If you win can you claim your costs back against the police firearms dep't?I guess you can but even though I did nothing wrong the police are just lying .They gave me a letter for the doc to reply to the doc put I am fine no meds no mental illness and should carry on with my shooting , The police are now saying that I am good and can cover it up **** they are now doctors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 If you win can you claim your costs back against the police firearms dep't? If you win can you claim your costs back against the police firearms dep't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Please do PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 If you win can you claim your costs back against the police firearms dep't? Sitting in hedges you can claim bck expenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not got your PM mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I have pm you you should have it I sent a friend request aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ok mate give me a Minuit as this is my first night on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull dog Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 lol no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyboy Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) All I can say is if you have no revocation letter which allows you 21 days to appeal you have not been revoked ! I am at this moment in a simila position with Essex police, they have decided to revoke my fac and sgc for harassment to an ex over 4 years ago to which I must add was not true hence why the case got dropped . Essex police have visited me twice in them four years once to change address and once for renewal so why did they not take them then if I was a danger? They have also lied there back teeth out saying that they could not find me when I was on bail for five months yet in that time I went to court 3 times for ajurnment and to the police station at least twice one of which was for permission to go on holiday which was no problem the court is aprox 100mtrs from the police station, it's a joke...... But not for me as I have sent in my appeal within 21 days and got myself a barrister and a court date and maybe you should do the same ! This is my first post on here but I will let you all know if I win or lose. Did they revoke u on renewal of these certs? Or just come out of blue ? I know it's a pain but u can still go shooting to a certain level albeit your very limited but perhaps take it on chin write a letter saying you accept the revocation and will be applying again sometime in the near future ! Personally I'd give it a 1 1/2 - 2 years ! Edited January 29, 2014 by markyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 After reading experiences like this the £70 I spend on being a member of BASC is well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 First off I am not taking it on the chin! I am in court next month and yes it came out of the blue . BASC is no help at all, but as of next month they will have insurance for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 First off I am not taking it on the chin! I am in court next month and yes it came out of the blue . BASC is no help at all, but as of next month they will have insurance for this. Cancel membership and re-join next month? Pleased to hear you're fighting this. Let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyboy Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Basc Scotland helped me dramatically through a somewhat tough time a year and a half ago ! They were excellent and especially one man helped me and took a lot of time aswel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I will post how I get on! Did BASC help you financial or just support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyboy Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not financial, just support drafted me letters to write to the chief. I took what happened on the chin. I got dealt a serious bad blow by others and wound up in a nightmare situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splashy Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 The talk of involving lawyers or solicitors or "experts" that you have to pay for brings back horrible memories. I paid out £17,000 to a solicitor firm on an employment dispute. In the end I took it upon myself to resolve the dispute. It takes lawyers ages (and lots of money) to get up to speed on your case. In the end it comes down to the law and common sense. Write down a full timeline of everything that has happened, dates, conversations, actions etc. Make it as complete as you can. This will give you a timeline of facts, make sure that you back everything up with phone call records, recorded delivery numbers etc. Then make sure you know your position as regards the law. If your guns were taken from you in response to an allegation and that was subsequently found to be untrue then there can be no reason for withholding your guns. Send a letter to the chief, written in a business like manner, detailing the timeline and pointing out that your guns must be returned to you. Don't go airy fairy on this (not a legal term). Be firm, knowing that the law is on your side. Give a date for the Chief to adhere to, don't leave it open ended. 2 weeks sounds about right. I would state that "unless I receive my guns back within 2 weeks from this date I will be pursuing all means possible under the law to have my property returned to me". If you want any help with the drafting of any letters then just let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpw222 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Thanks splashy , I have a barrister on it now,my son has my shotguns and the rifles are with a rfd . I am interested in what happened to you Mark ! Do you want to share it with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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