m3vert Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I have been advised by my home insurance company that I now require an insurance approved safe installed in the house :-( It must be minimum of £2000 insurance rated. We currently have one of the electronic Nutool ones installed which doesn't cut the mustard! If there are any experts in this field I would appreciate it if you can point me in the right direction so as to not waste my cash on the wrong product!Cheers in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Is that 2k cash rating? how big do you need. Most safe in this area are just a box with a fair lock and have no real presence so need bolting to something solid ala guncabinet. I seem to remember a thread on hear quoting a similar cash rating on a gun cabinet. Edited February 26, 2014 by Rupert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yes it's £2k cash rating I believe. It only needs to hold a few watches and some jewellery, so not very big to be fair. I will look into what my cabinet is rated to but doubt it will be to the level required. Thanks for your response Rupert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Check isf its £2k cash or £2k jewellery BIG difference and give this man a call (colin IIRC) http://www.littlesafe.co.uk/ http://www.littlesafe.co.uk/section.php/1168/1/2_000_cash_rated_safe_upto_20_000_contents/e2cf57d089a2dc673029a57f66792dda Around £200 for a £2k cas safe This looks a good deal if big enough http://www.littlesafe.co.uk/product.php/629/265/protector_duo_pwka_grey_deraat_high_security_weapon_safe Edited February 26, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 2k cash rating = 20k valuables, jewelry etc. times the cash rating by 10. A good 2k cash rating safe will start at around the £200 mark. Whatever you buy you will need to tell the insurance and they will agree the value covered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) The guy on the phone today just said a £2k rated safe, and that the jewellery and watches were only covered if worn or in the safe. I will check that out mate thanks :-) Sorry he actually said £2k cash rated so guess that's £20k as you have said mate Edited February 26, 2014 by m3vert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) I think £2k is lowest cash rating. EN14450 S1: £2000 Cash RatingS2: £4000 Cash Rating EN1143-1Grade 0: £6000 Cash RatingGrade 1: £10,000 Cash RatingGrade 2: £17,500 Cash RatingGrade 3: £35,000 Cash RatingGrade 4: £60,000 Cash RatingGrade 5: £100,000 Cash RatingGrade 6: £150,000 Cash RatingGrade 7 - £250,000 Cash RatingGrade 8 - £400,000 Cash RatingGrade 9 - £650,000 Cash RatingGrade 10 - £1,000,000 Cash RatingGrade 11 - £1,500,000 Cash RatingGrade 12 – £2,250,000 Cash RatingGrade 13 - £3,500,000 Cash Rating This looks interesting.............http://www.burtonsafes.co.uk/online/ranger-series-gun-cabinets-%C2%A32k-cash-rating £2k cash rated gun cabinet! Edited February 26, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 ive used little safe co few times as mentioned above and always found them spot on so worth checking them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 AiS approved Insurance Safes need to be bolt secured to the floor. £2000 would be the cash rating which would equate to a valuables rating of £20000 (ten times the cash rating) Spend a little more than the minimum and get an AiS approved safe. You can buy non approved safes with a similar level of specification and fire rating but if the manufacture has not passed the stringent AiS rating criteria and procedures it may not be acceptable to your insurers. The worst case scenario is they might not pay out in the event of a catastrophic loss of the contents. Try an online search of home safe suppliers. We buy approved safes for our larger houses via a local Ironmongery supplier or Travis Perkins, but I suggest you speak to someone like Simply Safes to get some expert advice and the correct product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just ask for there recommendations on what safe, no doubt they will try to stiff you if anything happens anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Thanks for your help lads :-) I opted for this one from Simply Safes! http://www.simplysafes.co.uk/chubbsafes-elements-water-40k-p-1129.html Sadly the gun approved version was around the £450 mark so I couldn't justify that one :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 That's what happens when you are a Millionaire Tax Exile :ninja: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hey Tam less oh the tax exile part ;-) Sadly I pay my taxes my friend :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Our insurers wouldn't take less than EN1143-1 rating. Round our way plenty of houses are getting turned over and those sub £100 safes from B&Q just crumple and fold if jemmied. The M-I-L got done and had her little safe popped open in less than a minute - the photos of the safe are up here. Having seen what happens to those cheaply safes, I wouldn't store the dog's biscuits in one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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