aris Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Worth a look on the MidWayUSA youtube site: https://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA Total strip downs and reassembly of boxlock and sidelock shotguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Wonderful. He certainly knows his way around a shotgun :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Indeed - not something I would attempt myself on a fine firearm, but if presented with a very inexpensive shotgun which had seen better days, I may well give it a go with little investment risk. Edited March 28, 2014 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) No NO NO . When putting a hammer in a box lock never let the pressure off the spring until you have secured it with a pin . Use an assembly pin/tool with a taper to locate before you drive the body wire in so it is safe but you should never leave it like he did . Jack should have know better , the hammer can slip out and injure you as the spring pressure is strong , doing it the way shown can also break the striker nose off . I also disagree with the sequence , I would have fitted the cam and lever before the inside work but that's another story . I had to switch off at this point as my nerves could not stand the strain . Edited March 28, 2014 by Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I cringe every time I see the older guy - Jack. Not in Larry's league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I watched Jack bend a stock once. He made no attempt to make sure that the head didn't spread and seemed surprised when the old varnish melted when he took a gas-torch to it G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 And yet his skills are regarded as some of the best in the industry... Old school birmingham/london gunsmith, probably forgotten more than most of us who comment will ever know... Just out of interest, where were you both trained? (graham and gunman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Jack Rowe was a Birmingham stocker and has been regarded by many in the US as some sort of guru but I'm afraid he is long past his best . Gunman [that's me ] started an apprenticeship for a well known Birmingham gunmaker in 1968 and has been rebuilding and repairing double guns since leaving them in 1977 .Worked in the Birmingham trade before moving to the provinces .Currently working as general gunsmith and specialist trade out worker for many shops/dealers/gunsmiths around the country . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 His knowledge is probably fairly unique by American standards. Not sure how many Americans have apprenticed in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 And yet his skills are regarded as some of the best in the industry... Old school birmingham/london gunsmith, probably forgotten more than most of us who comment will ever know... Just out of interest, where were you both trained? (graham and gunman) My apologies; didn't know I had to be trained to comment on something. But I have bent stocks and have made them and will post pictures if you really want, G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordripon Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 and that's the way it is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I sense the irony in my post was missed/lost. I was genuinely interested in where you had trained! Lol Thank you for the gratious response gunman, i figured you had had some experience in the gunsmith trade. Do you find it rewarding still after your years of service? And graham, pictures would be great! I find stock bending truely fascinating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 You know it don't matter what trade you talk of tradesmen will disagree on which way is best (so will doctors so hey ho) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 For all there expertise in rifles and handguns the US had no body until recently building double guns apart from one or two mass produced jobs . There is also the fact that they have no gunmaking centres as most European countries do so there were no training grounds or companies like Webley or Churchill in Birmingham turning out apprentices . As a result there were very few American gunsmiths that really understood European doubles . A few British "gunmen" emigrated and those like Jack Rowe and David Trevelyan were taken to by the Americans as "gods of all knowledge " . There were a fair few Brits who went across and failed miserably to make either an impact or a living as well as some who for one reason or anther were unemployable over here , these guys were soon found out but one or two have managed to keep going . I have heard it said by Americans on more than one occasion "that he's a Brit so he must know what he's talking about ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Here ya go for what it's worth http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/279472-shotgun-stock-build/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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