kennym Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hi can someone please clarify, I have a .243 slot just out of interest could I buy a .243 ackley improved? thanks Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logstove Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yip! - I did....long time ago... 87gr vmax it liked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 i think it depends what force your with ,my mate put in for a 223 ack and made it clear what he wanted and was given a slot for a 223 .he was told by derbys firearms that the ackley was not on their data base and that 223 would be fine to purchase the ackley which he did.you need to ring your department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I suppose you can if it just says .243 and not .243 win. look carefully at this though as there is nothing to gain from a sporting length barrel in terms of velocity except less brass stretching (which needs offsetting against having to fire form). Good std brass will non the less last around ten firings in a win but you do need to set back the shoulder only lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yes you can, the 243Ackley is a cartridge not a caliber. The rifles caliber is still .243 winchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yes you can, the 243Ackley is a cartridge not a caliber. The rifles caliber is still .243 Winchester I think that's pushing it for many areas myself I should take care. The same argument could be made for .22 hornet and .22 swift for instance (.22 calibre in two different cartridges). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I think that's pushing it for many areas myself I should take care. The same argument could be made for .22 hornet and .22 swift for instance (.22 calibre in two different cartridges). Ah, but you fire a standard .243 win cartridge through the rifle (to fire form the brass), try firing say a .223 rem in a hornet or swift. Or for that matter having .243AI ammo on your cert and trying to buy .243 win ammo to use in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Ah, but you fire a standard .243 win cartridge through the rifle (to fire form the brass), try firing say a .223 rem in a hornet or swift. Or for that matter having .243AI ammo on your cert and trying to buy .243 win ammo to use in it. yes but the fact remains its still true to your description, this is certainly one to confirm with your area. there are many other P.O. Ackerly improved cases and others that can be fore formed into new and very different things. I feel its plain impossible to give advice as those that matter are based at the OPs police area hq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 yes but the fact remains its still true to your description, this is certainly one to confirm with your area. there are many other P.O. Ackerly improved cases and others that can be fore formed into new and very different things. I feel its plain impossible to give advice as those that matter are based at the OPs police area hq. "Those that matter" are the laws, not the folk who feel they can reinterpret them to suit office policy & force mandates. The firearms forms state CALIBER...anything above this is not in compliance with the wording of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 "Those that matter" are the laws, not the folk who feel they can reinterpret them to suit office policy & force mandates. The firearms forms state CALIBER...anything above this is not in compliance with the wording of the law. Calibre is a measure of bore size. Try and purchase a Win mag with a .308 / 7.62 slot or as previous a .22 swift with a .22 hornet slot, don't interpret ask those that matter for their confirmation of the facts as they see it (PW say so is no defence) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I can only comment on my own personal experience with two different licensing departments when in the past I have applied for an Ackley improved, be it some years ago. Both advised, for the reasons I gave above, that an Ackley was treated as the "standard" caliber and therefore my authority to acquire and my ammo authority was listed as .243. Interestingly, just looking at my current ticket it merely states .243, not .243 Win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 it only takes a phone call to confirm with the licencing manager, we all know we don't get one rule running in all areas like we should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Calibre is a measure of bore size. Try and purchase a Win mag with a .308 / 7.62 slot or as previous a .22 swift with a .22 hornet slot, don't interpret ask those that matter for their confirmation of the facts as they see it (PW say so is no defence) There is no .22 swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 What? I believe it's designation is .220 swift. Would believe myself that AI is a chambering not a cartridge in it's own right. As with the hornet I needed no veriation to re chamber in k hornet when I enquired. It takes two mins to ring your feo and check. All the best Karl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 I believe it's designation is .220 swift. Would believe myself that AI is a chambering not a cartridge in it's own right. As with the hornet I needed no veriation to re chamber in k hornet when I enquired. It takes two mins to ring your feo and check. All the best Karl. You confirm the point then with the k hornet (ask first). I suppose the 0in the third decimal place makes all the difference in the nomiculture , I have yet to hear it verbly described as anything but two,two swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 You confirm the point then with the k hornet (ask first). I suppose the 0in the third decimal place makes all the difference in the nomiculture , I have yet to hear it verbly described as anything but two,two swift Yep that's it's designation. No confusion then . One wouldn't want at 220 swift in the place of a 22 hornet Imagain the confusion trying to load one in the other ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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