chubbs Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I was having a pint with a local farmer a couple of days ago and he was telling that he has a problem with canadian geese coming onto his land at the time of year. He then went on to tell me that there was someone that was unloading the pellets out of the cartridge and reloading with candlewax and using this a a solid slug, he reckoned that it knocked em down instantly. This is apparently to get round laws on single shots fired from a shotgun. has anyone else ever come across this before? i haven't heard of it, so thought that i'd ask on here and see if anyone else knows anything about this? or knows how to do it? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 This is an old old trick, similar to stringing the individual pellets onto fishing line. Not even sure it would be legal today so telling you how to do it might not be such a good idea. Anyway why bother, a good goose load would be plenty to knock down Canadas. I know they are now on the vermin list BUT it still seems a shame to shoot them out of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The candle wax round sounds a lot like the Hatton round that a lot of special forces use to take out doors. Not sure I would be happy using on geese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I don't think that i'll be doing it myself, he was just explaining that it's a much cheaper way of shooting them than buying expensive cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The candle wax round sounds a lot like the Hatton round that a lot of special forces use to take out doors. Not sure I would be happy using on geese I think reloading a single projectile from any parent material renders a smooth bore gun into a rifle so therefore requiring an FAC. To be honest the canada's your local farmer is having a problem with are probably giving his crops a hiding and if you are after them they will decoy well into close range. I am a wildfowler and have dropped a goose with a 32 gram No 4 steel at 35 yards (when after duck) and have also missed geese at the same range with a 50 gram BB due to lower pattern density. The heavier loads are only needed for flighting geese when at extreme ranges not in the scenario you are lightly to encounter them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I wouldn't be messing with things like that, could be nasty! You wax the pellets together so they can't spread, but it may hurt if you get it wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Why not try it and when you get out of hospital(or when we get to the pearly gates)you can tell us what went wrong. How can emptying a cartridge of pellets and filling it with wax be cheap ? How hot will wax get being projected out of a shotgun barrel........perhaps hot enough to melt ? Does the wax weigh the same as the payload you have removed, is it the same maleability,will it deform in the same charachteristic way as the removed payload ? There is a reason we don`t mess with cartridges, if you believe this farmer do what he said and tell him to pull the trigger...............but don`t stand in the same field and don`t forget to have your mobile near for the ambulance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Why not try it and when you get out of hospital(or when we get to the pearly gates)you can tell us what went wrong. How can emptying a cartridge of pellets and filling it with wax be cheap ? How hot will wax get being projected out of a shotgun barrel........perhaps hot enough to melt ? Does the wax weigh the same as the payload you have removed, is it the same maleability,will it deform in the same charachteristic way as the removed payload ? There is a reason we don`t mess with cartridges, if you believe this farmer do what he said and tell him to pull the trigger...............but don`t stand in the same field and don`t forget to have your mobile near for the ambulance. Annnnnnnd if you pour molten wax into a shotgun cartridge it might adhere to the sides and cause very high pressures when fired. You'd have to be crazy to **** around with live ammunition.....how far will it go if you miss?? Will it kill that window cleaner 500yds away?....or just cripple him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I did wonder how much truth was in it, but you never know do you? stranger things have happened... I certainly wouldn't be trying it in a hurry. And after all, this is a forum, so discussion is the name of the game.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 sounds like an incredibly bad idea to me, though I suppose less risky if you fill the plastic wad with wax and then replace in the cartridge and I guess its non toxic but not one I'd try Though the only geese I've shot have been with 6's while on driven pheasant days and thats killed them straight off. I might add they were not very high and were both head shots. The key to geese with a shotgun is hitting them in the head as otherwise there is an awfull lot of feather and down to penetrate before you get at anything very vital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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